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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by z0m8ied0g » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:31 am

sbadger wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:06 pm
Export Beeb UNB09 Unmade kit

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VERY-RARE-MO ... 2367217557

Bit rich for me, but interesting and just superb condition.

Edit, just looked it up on CCH
In late 1984 Acorn moved into the US computer market releasing a fully-upgraded BBC Micro with the model number UNB09. It came with disc, Econet, and speech upgrades as standard and a version of BBC BASIC modified to use American spelling conventions (e.g. COLOR instead of COLOUR).
I missed these at auction, there were 3 in a box brand new.
I bed on them in the main auction and was the highest bidder at 130 quid, the reserve was 150 so it didn't sell.
It then went into the timed auction and sold for 380 quid (which seeing they are selling for 550 is a nice bit of profit)
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by matt_nottm » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:25 pm

bear wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:27 pm
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acorn-Archim ... 2360094696

I don't need another A310 but I'd consider bidding quite a bit on this one to have a closer look at that Welcome Disc at the bottom of the last photo. I have a hunch it could be the Arthur 0.30 Welcome Disc (with the Podule Manager module and PodZap utility missing from the Arthur 1.20 Welcome Disc) I've been looking for for years. But I don't fancy my odds of convincing the seller to ship it all to me on the west coast of the USA, or to split that disc out specifically.

I wonder if somebody here is interested enough to win this, and if so, would you drop me a PM about that Welcome Disc when you receive it? I'd even consider paying a small bounty for the part number off it (and potentially a larger one for a copy if it's the one I'm looking for).

Thanks!
Does this ZIP file help with the Podule Manager module? I cannot find a PodZap in the archives I have.
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by bear » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:44 pm

matt_nottm wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:25 pm
Does this ZIP file help with the Podule Manager module? I cannot find a PodZap in the archives I have.
Thanks for the thought, but... not for my purposes. I had done some experimentation extracting the Podule Manager module from Arthur 1.20 and loading it on Arthur 0.30, but though it appeared to work, it wasn't sufficient to allow ADFS access to the Winchester podule in my A310. I imagined that PodZap was possibly required to reinit some important stuff deep in the OS, and I set the experiment aside.
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by sbadger » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:33 am

Couple of 4mation titles i'd not heard of, Dinosaur Discovery and Worlds without Words



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ACORN-BBC-DI ... 3043535922
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ACORN-BBC-WO ... 3043552196
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Post by flaxcottage » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:56 am

They are both in my archive but due to 4Mation still enforcing their copyright they cannot be distributed.

They arrived from New Zealand in the huge package of educational software that Richard Toohey and I obtained a while back.

Dinosaur Discovery is a neat strategy-type game. Worlds without Worlds I found very strange.
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by Elminster » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:55 am

Only 35 years or so left to wait.
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Post by billcarr2005 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:24 pm

Elminster wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:55 am
Only 35 years or so left to wait.
Isn't it 70 years after the death of the author? (as per "Written, dramatic, musical and artistic work")

https://www.gov.uk/copyright/how-long-copyright-lasts
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Post by sweh » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:27 pm

Spotted via twitter - not sure if someone else has already linked to it.

Tonne of stuff in Reading, including a Beeb - https://www.facebook.com/34115125608949 ... 359253709/
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Post by VectorEyes » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:08 pm

Looks like a good-condition Master with fully kitted-out DataCentre, Raspberry Pi, MultiOS, etc... If I didn't already have too many machines I'd be very tempted to bid!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acorn-BBC-Ma ... 3407743381

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by Kazzie » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:57 pm

One for Acorn System enthusiasts: a large quantity of Vero Eurocard racking, collection only from Devon:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vero-Eurocar ... 3103738578

I'd be bidding if it weren't so far away...
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Post by ctr » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:14 pm

billcarr2005 wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:24 pm
Elminster wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:55 am
Only 35 years or so left to wait.
Isn't it 70 years after the death of the author? (as per "Written, dramatic, musical and artistic work")

https://www.gov.uk/copyright/how-long-copyright-lasts
You're right. I always thought there was a separate rule for works-for-hire, but I just checked and that's an American thing.

According to the government:
An employer should keep careful records of which person(s) created the work for them and any contractual agreements which were in force. The period of copyright protection will usually still be linked to the date of the death of the creator(s) - that is the employee(s).
Is this why software companies prefer young employees?!

There is an exception if the authors are unknown but an end-user has no way of knowing that.

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by Elminster » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:49 pm

billcarr2005 wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:24 pm
Elminster wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:55 am
Only 35 years or so left to wait.
Isn't it 70 years after the death of the author? (as per "Written, dramatic, musical and artistic work")

https://www.gov.uk/copyright/how-long-copyright-lasts
I would argue it comes under

Sound and music recording 70 years from when it’s first published

As usually published by a company and the author could be many people. Or maybe it depends if independant or by a company. Or maybe both. Or maybe none. But I haven’t really check.

Edit: let’s hope no one goes on a Retro author killing spree
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by Elminster » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:55 pm

ctr wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:14 pm
billcarr2005 wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:24 pm
Elminster wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:55 am
Only 35 years or so left to wait.
Isn't it 70 years after the death of the author? (as per "Written, dramatic, musical and artistic work")

https://www.gov.uk/copyright/how-long-copyright-lasts
You're right. I always thought there was a separate rule for works-for-hire, but I just checked and that's an American thing.

According to the government:
An employer should keep careful records of which person(s) created the work for them and any contractual agreements which were in force. The period of copyright protection will usually still be linked to the date of the death of the creator(s) - that is the employee(s).
Is this why software companies prefer young employees?!

There is an exception if the authors are unknown but an end-user has no way of knowing that.
Get confusing because it is in contract of most companies that software created while you work for them is owned by the company, not you. Therefore you cannot own the copyright.
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by 1024MAK » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:53 pm

If you want to discuss copyright, please find a more suitable thread, or start a new one.

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by Lardo Boffin » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:09 pm

Beeb with extra stuff. Currently on buy it now for £60.

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBC-Microcompu ... %7Ciid%3A1
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by 1024MAK » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:47 pm

Kazzie wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:57 pm
One for Acorn System enthusiasts: a large quantity of Vero Eurocard racking, collection only from Devon:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vero-Eurocar ... 3103738578

I'd be bidding if it weren't so far away...
Well, being a bit nearer, I'm taking a punt :D

Thanks for posting this up =D>

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by Kazzie » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:41 pm

1024MAK wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:47 pm
Kazzie wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:57 pm
One for Acorn System enthusiasts: a large quantity of Vero Eurocard racking, collection only from Devon:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vero-Eurocar ... 3103738578

I'd be bidding if it weren't so far away...
Well, being a bit nearer, I'm taking a punt :D

Thanks for posting this up =D>

Mark
I'm glad you've put in a bid for it: for fear of it going unsold and thrown out, I was contemplating pressing my family in Cornwall to drive up and collect it (and then thinking how to get it from Cornwall)!
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