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New meber from the Netherlands.

Post by Remklep » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:17 am

Greetings to all.

Started on Acorn machines back in 1982 when the school I attended had Acorn Atoms.
Shortly after they bought a couple of Electrons and in 1984 upgraded to model B+'s with monochrome monitors, an Econet server was also installed, all B+'s were connected to the network.
There was also one B+ with dual Cumana drives and a color monitor.
In 1985, being a 15 year old student, the school director offered me the "job" of system admin.
Yes I was a computer-nerd :D
I played many many hours of Elite on that B= with the Cumana drives and color monitor...

A couple of years ago I purchased a B+ 64Kb from eBay with 2 Cumana drives and played Elite from the original 30 year old 5.25 floppy.
Right up till the moment the caps in the PSU gave out and released the magic smoke.
They have been replaced, but somehow it damaged the Cumana drives as neither will read discs anymore.
They seem to work fine, but no matter what 5.25 floppy I put in them they all report disc error 18.

So I bought a Gotek and installed the HxC firmware on it.
A Pi3 Tube emulator is also incoming.

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Re: New meber from the Netherlands.

Post by davidb » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:38 am

Welcome! :D

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Re: New meber from the Netherlands.

Post by cmorley » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:43 am

Welcome :)
I think the Acorn BBC range is quite popular in The Netherlands :D

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Post by Elminster » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:05 am

Welcome, you are lucky in that the Netherlands is one of the few countries outside the UK that does meet-ups. I am sure you can find some one to have a look at those drives.

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Post by oss003 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:11 am

Welcome, enjoy the forum .......

Greetings (also from the Netherlands)
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Re: New meber from the Netherlands.

Post by Multiwizard » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:25 am

Hi,

welcome to this great Forum... :D


Greetings from my little Dutch Atomic Attic, Wim... :-)

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Post by flaxcottage » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:36 pm

Welcome. :D

The B+ is a great machine.
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Post by daveejhitchins » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:40 pm

Welcome to the Forum, REMKLEP . . . Enjoy . . .

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Re: New meber from the Netherlands.

Post by tricky » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:52 pm

Welcome,
you may have only got the heads dirty and spread it around, but maybe not :(

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Post by CMcDougall » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:00 pm

welcome R :)
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Re: New meber from the Netherlands.

Post by roland » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:41 pm

Welcome to this forum,

Enjoy your visits here. Once a year we have our Techsat (announced on this forum) so you can meet some of us in person.

Disc error 18 means "sector not found". The controller failed to find the required sector.
Often a bad or unformatted disc but it can also be an error in the disc controller circuit. Did you try another drive to eliminate the drive as a cause?

Greetings from the South of the Netherlands,
Roland
FPGAtom: much better than Atom2k15 which was even better than the real thing.
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Re: New meber from the Netherlands.

Post by Remklep » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:52 pm

roland wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:41 pm
Welcome to this forum,

Enjoy your visits here. Once a year we have our Techsat (announced on this forum) so you can meet some of us in person.

Disc error 18 means "sector not found". The controller failed to find the required sector.
Often a bad or unformatted disc but it can also be an error in the disc controller circuit. Did you try another drive to eliminate the drive as a cause?

Greetings from the South of the Netherlands,
Roland
I have 2 Cumana drives, they both show the same error, no matter what disc I put in them.
be it the original Elite disc, Stop Press disc or one of the 50 or so Games Collection discs I have.
Before the caps of the PSU went up in smoke, both drives worked flawlessly.
Now they don't, even though the drives seem to be making all the normal sounds when putting a disc in and typing "*."

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Post by DutchAcorn » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:44 am

Welcome to Stardot! :D

About the drives:
- You have a gotek working on the interface port of the BBC so the Beeb hardware should be fine
- It is a dual drive (right?), it is unlikely that both drives developed the exact same fault at the same time.

So if you have eliminated faulty floppies as a cause I’d suspect the floppy drive cable (and/or connectors).
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Re: New meber from the Netherlands.

Post by gidandridge » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:38 am

Welcome to Stardot!

Like you I also ended up being the "sysadmin" for my schools Econet. Happy times! :)

I am sure your dual Cummana drives are repairable. Would be good to get them going again. Every little precious bit of beeb hardware needs to be preserved. :D

If you are willing to dismantle it and post photos to the forum I am sure the folks on here will try and help! As DutchAcorn says you would have to be very unlucky for both drives to fail at the same time with the same fault. It would be a good to check the ribbon cables and connectors!

Enjoy the forums!
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Re: New meber from the Netherlands.

Post by Multiwizard » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:51 am

Remklep wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:17 am
Started on Acorn machines back in 1982 when the school I attended had Acorn Atoms.
Hi,

how many Atoms did this school have/use? :shock:

Were these Atoms used for education? :-k


Greetings, Wim... :-)

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Re: New meber from the Netherlands.

Post by Remklep » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:59 am

We had about 5 Atoms and 10 Electrons, which were all replaced around 1983 by BBC Model B.
There were about 20 B's hooked up to the Econet Server.

This was for Computer Class at the Kamerlingh Onnes School in Groningen.

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