How to start games with Atomulator ?!

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How to start games with Atomulator ?!

Post by Sebiohazard » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:31 am

Hello everyone :)

I am a beginner with Acorn machines, I already managed to emulate the Acorn Electron & BBC but the Atom poses a problem ...

1. With the emulator Atomulator the command

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*TAPE
& command

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*DISK
does not work ... Why ?

2. The games I find on the internet do not have extensions ??? I do not know how to load them ?

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Re: How to start games with Atomulator ?!

Post by oss003 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:08 pm

Hi,

to switch to disk, you have to type the command *DOS and you have to enable the diskrom in the menu.

You also have to load a diskimage for a drive in the menu.

AtoMMC, an SD card filesytem, is auto booted when Atomulator is started. Type *CAT to list the files on SD card.
The best way to start is downloading the Atom Software Archive and unpack it in the MMC directory. Then press SHIFT-F12 to start the menu. All programs can be started from the menu.

https://github.com/hoglet67/AtomSoftwar ... e/releases

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Re: How to start games with Atomulator ?!

Post by hoglet » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:22 pm

Which version of Atomulator are you using? The latest (v1.28 for windows) from here?
http://atomulator.acornatom.co.uk/

The comes pre-configured to use the AtoMMC file system, which means you can install the Atom Software Archive that includes almost every known Acorn Atom program in it.

Here is a direct link to the latest beta of the Atom Software Archive:
https://github.com/hoglet67/AtomSoftwar ... 1Beta5.zip

Unzip this to the mmc directory, which should already exist in your Atomulator installation. This may take a while, as there are over 4000 files.

Start Atomulator as normal, then press Shift-F12 (F12 is the same as BREAK on a real Atom). This should launch the Atom Software Archive menu system. You can also manually lauch the menu by typing *MENU.

In the Menu system, select the approriate chapter. Once in the chapter, use < and > to change page. Use S to search. Or press ? for further help.

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Post by oss003 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:26 pm

To enable the tape filesystem, press CTRL-F12 and the 300 baud file system is active. Now you can load a tapeimage from the menu (CSW or UEF file).

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Post by Sebiohazard » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:25 pm

Thank you all for your responses :)

If I type

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*DOS
I have this ... I do not know how to have DOS ?

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Another problem games do not have extensions (see capture) ???

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How to run this game thanks for your help :)
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Re: How to start games with Atomulator ?!

Post by oss003 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:40 pm

To run Astrobirds:

- unpack ASTROBIRDS in the MMC directory
- start Atomulator
- type *RUN ASTROBIRDS

You don't need DOS to run this game.
Please install the Atom Software Archive, all games are included.

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Post by Sebiohazard » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:51 pm

Hi oss003 & thank you for your help :)

I would like to emulate the Acorn Atom as originally I would like to find the DOS & the original game ASTROBIRDS in UEF or SSD format it is possible ?

& start the game with the original commands to understand how it works :) is it possible ? On the Acorn BBC emulator I tried it works.

Thank you !
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Post by hoglet » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:15 pm

Well, if you really want to go the difficult route....

Here's is a ZIP file containing a disk image that includes Astrobirds:
games1.zip
(51.85 KiB) Downloaded 63 times
Unzip that file anywhere you like.

In Atomulator you then need to:

1. Go to Settings / RamRom and uncheck RAM/ROM DiskROM Enabled. This disables the AtoMMC ROM and enables the original DOS ROM.

2. Go to Disc / Load Disc :0/2 and choose games1.dsk

3. On the keyboard:

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*DOS
*CAT
LOAD "ASTROBI"
RUN
The default keyboard mapping reflects the positions of the keys on a real atom, as far as is possible. This unfortunately makes Astrobirds rather unplayable.

You can find a collection of correctly fomatted disk images here:
https://github.com/hoglet67/Optima/tree/master/disks

But honestly, using the Atom Software Archive is much easier!

Dave
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Post by Sebiohazard » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:00 pm

A big thank you hoglet for these precious & accurate explanations it's very nice :)

1. The game works but I can not find the keys to play :) can we play with a controller ?

2. Are the Atom Software Archive games different to play properly on the keyboard ?

3. Where do you find games in TAP & DSK format ?

Again thank you very much for your help & sorry for my english I use Google translation :)

[EDIT] I love the emulated sound of floppy drive & I love to write command lines as if I really have an atom !
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Post by hoglet » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:05 pm

Sebiohazard wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:00 pm
1. The game works but I can not find the keys to play :) can we play with a controller ?
The keys end up as:
- Left: Up arrow
- Right: Control
- Fire: Fire

You can't play this game with a joystick (the original Atom didn't have a joystick)

Atomulator does let you redefine the key mapping, but it's always a compromise on a modern PC keyboard.
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2. Are the Atom Software Archive games different to play properly on the keyboard ?
There are some joystick conversions of some games, but not many.
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3. Where do you find games in TAP & DSK format ?
I'm not aware of any comprehensive archives of Atom Software.

That's why we created the Atom Software Archive.

Do at least give this a try - it contains all the original software.

Dave
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Post by hoglet » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:29 am

Sebiohazard wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:00 pm
1. The game works but I can not find the keys to play :) can we play with a controller ?

2. Are the Atom Software Archive games different to play properly on the keyboard ?
I'm sorry, it turns out what I said yesterday was wrong.

The Atom Software Archive does have a version of Astrobirds that uses a joystick controller:
astro4.png
In fact, there are over 60 games that have been modified to work with a joystick controller. You can find them all by searching for the term JS (select chapter G "All Titles", then S for search, then slowly type J S then hit return).

I've just tested this and it works very well.

In Atomulator, you need to enable Settings / Joystick / Keyboard Matrix to make it work.

Dave
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Post by CMcDougall » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:04 pm

The most comprehensive tape games are here :

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=10601&p=129095&hil ... ef#p129106

Wish someone would send me 30 more again ! :lol:
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Post by roland » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:46 pm

Well, there are more that 100 games on tape here: viewtopic.php?f=57&t=16275
The AGD games have a tape version as well.


@Hoglet: can you please update the Atom Archives with all the new AGD games when you have a spare moment?
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Post by hoglet » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:06 pm

roland wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:46 pm
@Hoglet: can you please update the Atom Archives with all the new AGD games when you have a spare moment?
Sure... I'll do this some time next week.

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Post by oss003 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:46 pm

roland wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:46 pm
Well, there are more that 100 games on tape here: viewtopic.php?f=57&t=16275
The AGD games have a tape version as well.
and disk images ..... ;)

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Re: How to start games with Atomulator ?!

Post by Sebiohazard » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:05 pm

Hello hoglet & thank you again for your help :)

I tried Atom Software Archive by following your instructions & the games work with the joystick thanks it's more pleasant :)

By cons it's a pity that the sound of the floppy drive is not activated...

I still had a question... I discovered on the forum this emulator it can launch games in TXT format where can I find them ?

It also has one thing that I like very much ... it's the scanlines mode :) Atomulator does not have this option ?

Thanks again for your help this forum is great !!!
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Post by hoglet » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:11 pm

Sebiohazard wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:05 pm
It also has one thing that I like very much ... it's the scanlines mode :) Atomulator does not have this option ?
Sorry, the only authentic effect that Atomulator supports is Settings/Video/Snow to minic Atom screen noise.

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Post by Sebiohazard » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:05 pm

OK damage for the scanlines ... & for the emulator where to find games in TAP format ?
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Post by oss003 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:12 pm

For Atomulator you need CSW or UEF files as tape image.
A lot can be found in the zip files here: viewtopic.php?f=57&t=16275

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Post by Sebiohazard » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:23 pm

OK thanks but I was talking about http://floooh.github.io/virtualkc/ it only accepts games in TAP and TXT format...

How to do ?!
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Post by oss003 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:01 pm

You can find some TAP files here: http://www.stairwaytohell.com/atom/wouterras/

And the TXT files are Basic programs.

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Post by Sebiohazard » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:17 pm

I can not launch games with this emulator http://floooh.github.io/virtualkc/index.html

The basic commands do not work (*TAPE *DISK *CAT *DOS LOAD"" CHAIN)... even the C64 does not work ...

Someone has already managed to launch games with ?
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Post by hoglet » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:52 pm

Sebiohazard wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:17 pm
Someone has already managed to launch games with ?
The Atom Emulation with floooh/yakc is quite basic...

They have included the DOS ROM, but have not emulated the FDC chip, so *DOS just hangs.

You need to treat it as a tape only Atom.

I was able to load/run Chuckie Egg from a TAP file.

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Post by Sebiohazard » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:00 am

It's a shame because the interface is well done & there is CRT mode & scanlines 8)

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Post by hoglet » Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:55 pm

roland wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:46 pm
@Hoglet: can you please update the Atom Archives with all the new AGD games when you have a spare moment?
There's now a V11Beta 6 available that adds AGD packs 29-41 bringing us up to date.
https://github.com/hoglet67/AtomSoftwar ... e/releases

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Re: How to start games with Atomulator ?!

Post by roland » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:22 pm

Thank you 8)

I will download the new version this week.
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