Electron Elite query

reminisce about bbc micro & electron games like chuckie egg, repton, elite & exileRelated forum: adventures


Post Reply
User avatar
trixster
Posts: 925
Joined: Wed May 06, 2015 11:45 am
Location: York
Contact:

Electron Elite query

Post by trixster » Tue May 14, 2019 8:16 am

Someone on the fb group was suggesting Elite might have been released for electron on disk as well as cassette. Was there a disk release?
A3020 | A3000 | A420/1 | BBC B | Master Turbo | ZX48K | NeoGeo
Atom | Amiga A4000 | A3000 | A1200 | A500 | PC Engine | Enterprise
Falcon | Saturn | PS1 | SNES | CPC6128 | C64 | 3DO | MD | Jaguar | X68000 | CD32

User avatar
davidb
Posts: 2495
Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:11 pm
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by davidb » Tue May 14, 2019 10:17 am

I've never heard of a disk release. There's no mention of one on Ian Bell's Elite pages and only the original cassette version is listed on Every Game Going.

There could have been a re-release on disk, though I don't remember seeing anything like that. Perhaps the person was thinking about unofficial hacks to make it run from disk, like those on the EGG entry page, linked to above.

User avatar
trixster
Posts: 925
Joined: Wed May 06, 2015 11:45 am
Location: York
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by trixster » Tue May 14, 2019 10:51 am

Yes, and there's no mention on FrontierAstro which i thought had a pretty comprehensive list of what versions were released.
A3020 | A3000 | A420/1 | BBC B | Master Turbo | ZX48K | NeoGeo
Atom | Amiga A4000 | A3000 | A1200 | A500 | PC Engine | Enterprise
Falcon | Saturn | PS1 | SNES | CPC6128 | C64 | 3DO | MD | Jaguar | X68000 | CD32

User avatar
danielj
Posts: 7500
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:51 pm
Location: Manchester
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by danielj » Tue May 14, 2019 11:59 am

Indeed. Never released on disk. There was only ever a tape release. Two versions under acornsoft, one (I think?) under superior. First version had knackered galactic hyperdrive (not that that made too much difference as there was no need to leave galaxy 1).

d.

User avatar
AndyF
Posts: 1276
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:16 pm
Location: Derby
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by AndyF » Tue May 14, 2019 2:46 pm

Fractionally off topic here but what happens if you try the MasterCompact (ADFS Based by default) version of Elite on the Elk ? I'm only picking this one up as ( a ) The M128C version is ADFS and ( b ) If I remember correctly (not seen one for years) the plus expansion for the ELK only really initially gave ADFS ?

I don't have either an emulator or disk image of said version to hand as I write this otherwise I'd of tried. Then again its probably going to demand shadow memory and fall over I guess. :-k , I'm not sure what would happen about the awol Mode7

As above only reason for even suggesting this is both are ADFS 'by default' as such.

Mind you I had a late DFS in my Compact which was a nice addition ! :D
Last edited by AndyF on Tue May 14, 2019 2:48 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Andy

* NEW * The Jetset Willy and Manic Miner community :)

Adventure games ported across to the BBC (in progress) as soon as I can find some time!

User avatar
danielj
Posts: 7500
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:51 pm
Location: Manchester
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by danielj » Tue May 14, 2019 3:50 pm

It won't work as it relies on the beeb's hardware which the elk doesn't have.

d.

User avatar
CMcDougall
Posts: 6786
Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:13 pm
Location: Shadow in a Valley of Scotland
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by CMcDougall » Tue May 14, 2019 4:27 pm

Plus the mCompact ADFS version is page at &E00 with colours, so that's out the window as elk with ADFS is crap at &1D00 :evil: and can only handle B&W per tape version.
ImageImageImage

User avatar
DutchAcorn
Posts: 2130
Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:56 am
Location: Maarn, Netherlands
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by DutchAcorn » Tue May 14, 2019 4:37 pm

Best simply use the Elk disc version (attached).
Attachments
ElkElite.zip
(26.43 KiB) Downloaded 12 times
Paul

Image

User avatar
rmbrowngr
Posts: 315
Joined: Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:46 pm
Location: Dionysos, Greece
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by rmbrowngr » Tue May 14, 2019 4:57 pm

I have on disk Elite for the Electron from www.acornelectron.co.uk DVD. Unfortunately it’s the tape version transferred to disk and saving and loading commanders is to tape.
Richard B
Acorn Electrons issue 4 and issue 6 with Master RAM Board, Acorn Plus 1, AP6, AP5, Pegasus 400, BeebSCSI, Gotek, Raspberry Pi 2nd Processor, GoSDC MBE with Elk2GoSDC and Cart2GoSDC.
BBC B+ 64K (128K upgraded) with Duel OS

User avatar
DutchAcorn
Posts: 2130
Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:56 am
Location: Maarn, Netherlands
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by DutchAcorn » Tue May 14, 2019 5:40 pm

That’s probably the same version I just posted then...
Paul

Image

User avatar
trixster
Posts: 925
Joined: Wed May 06, 2015 11:45 am
Location: York
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by trixster » Tue May 14, 2019 5:46 pm

DutchAcorn wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 4:37 pm
Best simply use the Elk disc version (attached).
Is this the cassette version on a disk.... or an official elk disk version...?
A3020 | A3000 | A420/1 | BBC B | Master Turbo | ZX48K | NeoGeo
Atom | Amiga A4000 | A3000 | A1200 | A500 | PC Engine | Enterprise
Falcon | Saturn | PS1 | SNES | CPC6128 | C64 | 3DO | MD | Jaguar | X68000 | CD32

User avatar
danielj
Posts: 7500
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:51 pm
Location: Manchester
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by danielj » Tue May 14, 2019 5:59 pm

Cassette version on disk. There was no disk version. There was no disk version. There was no disk version.

d.

User avatar
trixster
Posts: 925
Joined: Wed May 06, 2015 11:45 am
Location: York
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by trixster » Tue May 14, 2019 6:01 pm

There is no disk version.

So what is it?

It’s a White Hole....
A3020 | A3000 | A420/1 | BBC B | Master Turbo | ZX48K | NeoGeo
Atom | Amiga A4000 | A3000 | A1200 | A500 | PC Engine | Enterprise
Falcon | Saturn | PS1 | SNES | CPC6128 | C64 | 3DO | MD | Jaguar | X68000 | CD32

User avatar
CMcDougall
Posts: 6786
Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:13 pm
Location: Shadow in a Valley of Scotland
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by CMcDougall » Tue May 14, 2019 6:26 pm

danielj wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 5:59 pm
There was no disk version. There was no disk version. There was no disk version.
by the way, there was no official disc version :lol:

whoever done the unofficial tape to disc of exile are mental!
ImageImageImage

User avatar
topcat96
Posts: 252
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:17 am
Location: Somewhere wonderful!
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by topcat96 » Tue May 14, 2019 6:51 pm

Image

Why no Electron Elite on floppy disk !!!! :(
Image

User avatar
DutchAcorn
Posts: 2130
Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:56 am
Location: Maarn, Netherlands
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by DutchAcorn » Tue May 14, 2019 7:13 pm

CMcDougall wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:26 pm

by the way, there was no official disc version :lol:

whoever done the unofficial tape to disc of exile are mental!
Exile? Was there an official Electron disk version for Exile?
Paul

Image

User avatar
danielj
Posts: 7500
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:51 pm
Location: Manchester
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by danielj » Tue May 14, 2019 8:11 pm


Andrew_Waite
Posts: 168
Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:58 pm
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by Andrew_Waite » Wed May 15, 2019 5:37 pm

It is odd that there was never a Plus1 cartridge version of Elite. Much of the code could have run in the faster half of the Electron's memory map.
Last edited by Andrew_Waite on Wed May 15, 2019 5:38 pm, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
danielj
Posts: 7500
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:51 pm
Location: Manchester
Contact:

Re: Electron Elite query

Post by danielj » Wed May 15, 2019 5:56 pm

Cartridge games didn't run from ROM, they just used the cartridge as a fast tape (ROM filing system) to load it into RAM. I suspect it'd have needed a fair amount of rejiggling to run from ROM. If you want to know what this would have been like, have a poke at the mega-games cartridge :)

Post Reply