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CRIBBAGE from MICRO-AID.
Micro User October 1984.
Added to the missing list.
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COMPUTE-A-WIN from LOWMAC SOFTWARE.
Micro User October 1984
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Many programs from MILL SOFT.
Micro User November 1984.
Packs 1 to 12, plus 9 "Map-Ventures" whatever they are?
All missing...
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PACK 1: BANDIT, HANGMAN, LOTTO
PACK 2: POKER, SUMS, GIVE AND TAKE
PACK 3: DRAUGHTS, O'S AND X'S, COUNTDOWN
PACK 4: BINGO, BATTLESHIPS, RUMMY
PACK 5: KIOSK, SCISSORS-PAPER-STONE, SNAP
PACK 6: ROULETTE, PONTOON, HOROSCOPES
PACK 7: SOLITAIRE, GRAND NATIONAL, MAZES
PACK 8: ANAGRAMS, SNAKES AND LADDERS, DOODLES
PACK 9: LUDO, TIDDLY-WINKS, DICE
PACK 10: FOX AND GEESE, LAZER CHAMBER, NUMBER QUIZ
PACK 11: NINE MENS MORRIS, HEADS OR TAILS, PLANETS
PACK 12: TILES, GOLF, WORD QUIZ

MAP-VENTURES

HOUSE OF FRANKENSTEIN
REALM OF ATLANTIS
LAND OF OZ
CASTLE OF DRACULA
PYRAMID OF TUTANKHAMEN
MAZE OF THE MINOTAUR
VALLEY OF DINOSAURS
TEMPLE OF ZEUS
COMPLEX OF NUMBERS
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MOLECULE (AKA BEAT THE BUG) from BRIDGE SOFTWARE
Micro User October 1983
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DEVIL'S CAUSEWAY from KAY-DEE SOFTWARE
Micro User October 1983
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EDIT: It appears Stairway To Hell has this game filed under Kay-Dee Software, but it credits Database Software on the loading screen.
I shall investigate further...

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TAKE THE STRAIN, AIR SEA MISSILE, CAMBRIDGE, OTHELLO, THE TOWER, THE QUIZ from TWIG SYSTEMS SOFTWARE
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Dragon User Janury 1984
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ARCADE ACTION PAC ONE (MEGAPEDE, HEXHOPPER, PHOENIX)
ARCADE ACTION PAC TWO (TURBO, CENTIPEDE BREAKOUT, 3-D MISSILE COMMAND)
ADVENTURE ONE
ADVENTURE TWO
from THE LONDON SOFTWARE COMPANY.
Micro User January 1984
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SPACE MISSION SIMULATOR from COMPUSOFT
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DRILLA KILLA and RED SKIES OVER ACCRINGTON from VAMPYRE SOFTWARE
Micro User September 1984
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CONVOY SEARCH and THE BLUE PATH from TIGER SOFTWARE
Micro User April 1985.
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And this ad from Personal Computer News April 1985 showing SPACE ACE.
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SPACE TREK from DIMAX
Micro User Jan 1984 and Feb 1984.
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LABYRINTH from J.WILKINSON.
Advertised in the Beebug supplement form March 1984
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SIDEWINDER from N. SILVER
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Updated list.
Can anyone find any advertisements for any of the following games?

Andrew Globe - The Blob
AUCBE - Quest Adventure Creator, Quest Adventures (Knights Of Camelot)
Aztec Games - Bounty Pirates, Mission Impossible, Princes, Squash
Beebugsoft - Leapfrog Solitaire / Knockout
Bryants - Monster Battle
CMS - Black Hole, Dive Bombers
Computersmith - Oil, Detective (For the BBC)
Database - Devil Run
First Byte (May be FBC) - Alien, Caves Of Anoran, Descender, Starfighter, Vader Raid, King Ape
Grandslam - World War 1
Hexagon - Cell And Serpent / Cells And Serpents
Kingfisher - Car Race
Labyrinth - Quest For The Pendragon
Micromode - Copter
Microplus Software - Battleships, Channel, Codecracks / Hi-Lo, Glooper
NEC - 20 Crosswords
Odyssey - Adventure 2, Arcade 1, Beeboids
Players - Quicksilva
POM Software - Games Pack 2 (Labyrinth), Games Pack 3 (Fruit Machine)
Processor Applications - Game Pack 2 (Multimaze, Catch, and Bomber)
Rainbow - 3D Mouse Maze
Software For All - Galaxians

Thanks,

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I'll have another look. Would it be possible to find out how these games came to be on the list in the first place? The persons alerting us originally may have some further information which would help.
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I think I said earlier (may be in another thread) that the missing games list (as I found it a few years ago) is made up of 2 or more lists cobbled together by Arcadian, PitfallJones and Crispin Boylan of Beebgames (I think).
Since then, it is me that has kept it updated.
I have added and scrubbed games from it as they were found, or if they were false entries on the list.
When you (fuzzel) started the "sources" advert thread then it spurred me and others to once again go trawling the magazines.
I think the list is now pretty comprehensive.

MISSING GAMES LIST: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14458

One thing I have noted is that some of the games that we can't find adverts for only seem to appear in magazine lists of "available software", e.g. the one that appeared every month in A&B computing, or the Micro User software supplements.
This may be that some of the smaller companies never advertised in magazines?? or some of the entries are false?? Who knows?

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SHOOTOUT, SPACE FIGHTER, and HANGMAN from MP SOFTWARE
PERSONAL COMPUTING TODAY, NOVEMBER 1982
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TWO ACTION GAMES (RACETRACKS / GRAND PRIX) by M. WHITESIDE
PERSONAL COMPUTING TODAY NOVEMBER 1982
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Another company I have never heard of...
ORCHESTRATED COMPUTING
from PERSONAL COMPUTING TODAY NOVEMBER 1982

SPACE TREK (with INVADERS, BLITZ, PINBALL)
ADVENTURE (with INVADERS, PONTOON, LUNAR LANDER)
SCRAMBLE (with INVADERS, BREAKOUT, BATTLESHIP)
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and another...
MINEFIELD from EDUQUEST
PERSONAL COMPUTING TODAY MARCH 1983
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I have a full set of A&B Computing magazines so I'm working my way through them to find any of the above missing adverts / possibly any new missing games. Just thought I'd better let you all know (this exercise is a tall order as it is without unnecessary duplication of effort).
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Thanks fuzzel.
I think we can safely discount using archive.org now.
Maybe all the missing ones will be in mags with a small online presence such as the recent Personal Computing Today finds...
**PS Shootout seems to only have been advertised for a couple of months.
Maybe it was terrible, or only worked on OS 0.1?

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STRINGER from ADDICTIVE
A&B Computing - January 1986, p31
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One caveat is that there is no mention in the ad of which machine the game is for so it's a possible.
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Hi fuzzel,
I have checked 3 or 4 other adverts from Acorn User, C&VG and Your Computer and I think this game was only available for the C64.
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Stringer as in to string someone along. I wonder how many kids were hoodwinked by that advert into ordering the game and parting with their hard earned pocket money.
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leenew wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:56 pm
AUCBE - Quest Adventure Creator, Quest Adventures
Just been randomly reading about Quest...
http://www.tdda.info/lessons-learned-ba ... nafus.html
https://archive.org/details/Acorn_User_ ... page/n157/
http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/21785/Quest/

I imagine that educational publications might be the best source of an advert.
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8bitAG wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:44 pm
leenew wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:56 pm
AUCBE - Quest Adventure Creator, Quest Adventures
Just been randomly reading about Quest...
http://www.tdda.info/lessons-learned-ba ... nafus.html
https://archive.org/details/Acorn_User_ ... page/n157/
http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/21785/Quest/

I imagine that educational publications might be the best source of an advert.
I think you are right Gareth, although in this instance I don't think there is any doubt the product exists :D
I will change the "missing" entry to include "Knights of Camelot".

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leenew wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:31 pm
PUB GAMES from ALLIGATA
This is the only BBC Micro specific ad I can find. Acorn User August 1986
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This was probably released for other computers but not the beeb.
I've found this in the news section of A&B magazine 308 (Aug-86)
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Launch date of June 24th for other versions but the article doesn't make clear how far advanced the BBC version was.
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leenew wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:13 pm
I think you are right Gareth, although in this instance I don't think there is any doubt the product exists :D
I will change the "missing" entry to include "Knights of Camelot".
Ah, I wasn't sure if you were just collecting adverts. Yeah, no doubt that Quest Adventure Creator exists as it's in various collections, such as the Computing History one...
http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/ ... dventures/

(as you've already got logged in your thread viewtopic.php?t=14458 ) :)
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8bitAG wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:31 pm
leenew wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:13 pm
I think you are right Gareth, although in this instance I don't think there is any doubt the product exists :D
I will change the "missing" entry to include "Knights of Camelot".
Ah, I wasn't sure if you were just collecting adverts. Yeah, no doubt that Quest Adventure Creator exists as it's in various collections, such as the Computing History one...
http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/ ... dventures/

(as you've already got logged in your thread viewtopic.php?t=14458 ) :)
Hi Gareth (and everybody else who was wondering...)
The purpose of this thread was to collect information, mainly magazine adverts, that confirmed the existence of games that we think were commercially released, but are missing from all known archives - so-called "Missing in action" or MIA games.
This list of games, which has been cobbled together from multiple sources over the years is here: viewtopic.php?p=192796#p192796

Also, these games appear on bbcmicro.co.uk and have a secondary genre of "missing" http://www.bbcmicro.co.uk/index.php?rt_ ... =on&sort=a
As you can see, we have quite a way to go before "The complete BBC Micro games archive" is actually complete :D

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