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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by sdsolle » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:55 pm

tricky wrote:Why do I get so excited when I see red function keys :lol:
Never seen them in a briefcase before! Anyone know they're DIY efforts, or something exciting like an early version of the Acorn Communicator?
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Post by RobC » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:18 pm

sdsolle wrote:Anyone know they're DIY efforts, or something exciting like an early version of the Acorn Communicator?
They seem to be professionally done. They have a "KeyCall" label on them and there seems to be a genlock card and something that says "Video disc mixer" as well!

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by Lardo Boffin » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:12 am

3 beebs, teletext, joysticks and disc drive for £175.

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBC-Microcompu ... 2646120461

Edit - somebody has bid so bang goes the buy it now.
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Viglen twin 40/80 5.25" discs, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by crj » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:28 pm

Hmm. No indication any of that stuff is even slightly working, alas.

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Post by Lardo Boffin » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:48 pm

crj wrote:Hmm. No indication any of that stuff is even slightly working, alas.
Just asked - believed to be working but not sure hence the low starting price.
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Viglen twin 40/80 5.25" discs, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
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Post by Lardo Boffin » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:37 am

Some educational titles for very little money.

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-Boxed-Educat ... Ciid%253A1
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Viglen twin 40/80 5.25" discs, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by flaxcottage » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:11 pm

A BBC micro Issue 1 motherboard with DFS. Doesn't look totally original but could be working.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acorn-BBC-Mi ... Swp7tadxQJ
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Post by leenew » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:49 pm

I reckon that is really rare. :shock:
What about the serial number on the board of 100004?
Pity the serial number sticker is no longer on the base.
Anybody interested in bidding on it?

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Post by CMcDougall » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:41 pm

^ its a fake
no issue1s out there as breadboard or Proton :roll:

looks to me someone handy with white annotation paint.
also bottom left no link for S4 to make 8271 work, so it's a issue3 not 2.
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Post by leenew » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:59 pm

Not sure Col,
If you look at the January 1982 issue of "Your Computer" magazine, that shows an issue 1 beeb on the front cover - complete with the wobbly serial number...
https://archive.org/details/your-comput ... ne-1982-01

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Post by flaxcottage » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:13 pm

The motherboard looks to be OK as an issue 1 but the PSU would be a linear one methinks.

I have eBay-messaged the vendor asking about the provenance. See what he/she says.

It is certainly an interesting item. If the board were to be genuine it could be fun to make an 'original' issue 1 machine around it. :)
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Post by flaxcottage » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:09 pm

From discussion with the vendor on eBay, the Issue 1 BBC micro looks to be a Franken-Beeb. He sent me clearer pictures of the motherboard and it certainly looks like a real Issue 1 board.

I am thinking that the mobo is an original Issue 1 which was fitted to a later, non-contemporary case, probably an Issue 3 case judging by the perspex strip lettering. There is also the fitted 8271 DFS, which may be a later addition. It would be good to know if the DFS pre-dated version 0.9 and if the OS were 0.1 along with BASIC 1.

The screws holding the mobo to the case seem to be later in style than issue 1 and there is the problem of the missing BNC video socket.

Unfortunately the vendor does not have any provenance for the machine and no idea where he acquired it.

My heart says get this machine and restore it. My head and probably my better half too say leave it to someone else. #-o
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Post by crj » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:47 pm

flaxcottage wrote:It would be good to know if the DFS pre-dated version 0.9 and if the OS were 0.1 along with BASIC 1.
If there's a working disc interface, it's definitely not OS 0.1 - that didn't support paged ROMs!

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Post by steve3000 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:11 pm

flaxcottage wrote:Unfortunately the vendor does not have any provenance for the machine and no idea where he acquired it.

My heart says get this machine and restore it. My head and probably my better half too say leave it to someone else. #-o
Spotted this too, and thinking the same thing. Definitely a shame about the lack of original PSU. Also noticed the heatsink isn't the 'winged' type typical of issue 2's and early issue 3's, so again this could have been changed. I am still tempted to bid, as it'd be a great restoration project and is local enough to collect, just conscious that it's already priced higher than other beeb's I've restored over the past few years, and will probably go higher...and won't really know how much of a Franken-beeb it is until it's in the workshop stripped down to basics.

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Post by Lardo Boffin » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:42 pm

crj wrote:Hmm. No indication any of that stuff is even slightly working, alas.
It turns out that most of it is working! :D
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Viglen twin 40/80 5.25" discs, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
BBC Master, Datacentre + HDD, pi co-proc

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Post by CMcDougall » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:56 pm

leenew wrote:the January 1982 issue of "Your Computer" magazine, that shows an issue 1 beeb on the front cover - complete with the wobbly serial number...
https://archive.org/details/your-comput ... ne-1982-01
I always took it per the 1770 disc upgrade instruction that 'no issue1 in field'
but as you see Lee maybe a let loose for mag / big seller reviews
£331 it went for, not even a sandpaper rough case or proper key strip for it :roll:
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Post by leenew » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:57 pm

Yep! That's effectively £331 for the motherboard :shock:
It IS rare though!!
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Post by 1024MAK » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:03 pm

As per usual, it was a reasonable price until the last moments (just three bids when I looked), when it went mad!

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by Lardo Boffin » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:24 pm

7 beeb utility discs. Any idea what they are?

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Set-of-seven-U ... 5232.l9681
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Viglen twin 40/80 5.25" discs, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
BBC Master, Datacentre + HDD, pi co-proc

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Post by Pernod » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:26 pm

Lardo Boffin wrote:7 beeb utility discs. Any idea what they are?

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Set-of-seven-U ... 5232.l9681
Z80 2nd Processor.
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BBC Model B, ATPL Sidewise, Acorn Speech, 2xWatford Floppy Drives, AMX Mouse, Viglen case, BeebZIF, etc.

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Post by Lardo Boffin » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:43 pm

Pernod wrote:
Lardo Boffin wrote:7 beeb utility discs. Any idea what they are?

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Set-of-seven-U ... 5232.l9681
Z80 2nd Processor.
That would make sense. Just checked out the sellers other items and there are Z80 user guides in there as well.
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Viglen twin 40/80 5.25" discs, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
BBC Master, Datacentre + HDD, pi co-proc

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by balladof32 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:43 pm

never seen one of these before ... official ? im not affiliated with the seller ...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Microcomputer- ... ywords=bbc

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Post by Lardo Boffin » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:10 pm

balladof32 wrote:never seen one of these before ... official ? im not affiliated with the seller ...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Microcomputer- ... ywords=bbc
The white logo looks to be in extremely good shape considering how scuffed the rest of it looks.
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Viglen twin 40/80 5.25" discs, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
BBC Master, Datacentre + HDD, pi co-proc

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Post by CMcDougall » Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:16 am

Atom Iss5 with colour board :shock: & 4 original tapes
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ACORN-ATOM-V ... 6016.l4276
at £113 +12 post at mo.....
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Post by Lardo Boffin » Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:08 pm

CMcDougall wrote:Atom Iss5 with colour board :shock: & 4 original tapes
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ACORN-ATOM-V ... 6016.l4276
at £113 +12 post at mo.....
Its up to £211 now!
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Viglen twin 40/80 5.25" discs, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
BBC Master, Datacentre + HDD, pi co-proc

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Post by Lardo Boffin » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:53 pm

Maybe a good fixer-up A3000 for £45 if you are local?

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBC-Acorn-A300 ... Swtndano7h
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Viglen twin 40/80 5.25" discs, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
BBC Master, Datacentre + HDD, pi co-proc

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Post by flaxcottage » Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:17 pm

Maybe? :-k

That motherboard looks very verdigris-ed, especially the keyboard sockets and the ROM sockets. :(
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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by RobC » Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:25 pm

The listing says that one of the keyboard connectors has partially come away from the PCB so there's been a serious amount of corrosion...

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Post by Lardo Boffin » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:27 pm

Lardo Boffin wrote:Maybe a good fixer-up A3000 for £45 if you are local?

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBC-Acorn-A300 ... Swtndano7h
Maybe good for some parts? :D
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Viglen twin 40/80 5.25" discs, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
BBC Master, Datacentre + HDD, pi co-proc

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Re: Worth Taking a Look At

Post by alienkidmj12 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:23 pm

looks very corroded :)

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