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BeebMaster BBC B Econet Kit

Post by BeebMaster » Sun May 13, 2018 1:20 pm

I still get enquiries about my long-defunct BBC Model B Econet Upgrade Kit, so I thought I would see if there was any interest on here in me doing yet another "final" batch! I've looked into it a bit and it might be a goer for 20+ kits. Assuming I can get all the parts and enough of them, I would try to hold the price insofar as I can remember what it was last time around, but likely to be around £35-£40 mark, lower end for forum members and higher end for any unsold that I offload elsewhere.

I was thinking also I might revive my 2/3/4 station "starter packs" with Clock, interfaces (choice of Master style module or BBC B kit), terminators and DIN cables.
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Post by matt_nottm » Sun May 13, 2018 4:35 pm

Hi, I would certainly be interested in a couple of the socketed Beeb Master Econet Modules please if you decide to make any more as per:
http://www.beebmaster.co.uk/BeebShop/BMEconet1.html

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Post by JonC » Sun May 13, 2018 7:17 pm

matt_nottm wrote:Hi, I would certainly be interested in a couple of the socketed Beeb Master Econet Modules please if you decide to make any more as per:
http://www.beebmaster.co.uk/BeebShop/BMEconet1.html

Same here please Ian. :)

Also I reckon if the new 'Econet Hub' gets produced it would be good to package that, the module above and say 5 cables together to make a new 'Starter Kit' :mrgreen:
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Post by marcusjambler » Mon May 14, 2018 9:05 am

Hi Ian

I'm interested in 2 Beeb B kits and a Beeb Master plug in module.
And a 4 machine starter pack.

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Post by daveejhitchins » Mon May 14, 2018 3:06 pm

I could do with a starter kit for 4/5 Beeb/Master mix - less the cables, please.

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Post by VincentVega » Mon May 14, 2018 5:41 pm

I'd be interested in a starter kit for three machines - Model B, B+ (if possible) and a Master, please.

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Post by lcww1 » Mon May 14, 2018 7:15 pm

Thanks for looking into the possibility of supplying a fresh batch of your BBC Model B Econet Upgrade Kit! Please put me down for two upgrade kits for model B.

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Post by BeebMaster » Fri May 18, 2018 3:19 pm

Right. It sounds like it might be a goer, so I will see what I can do.

I can do B+ kits, previously I've done them as a supplementary set of parts to the main kit.

I never ran out of Econet Modules, but I just haven't advertised them for a while as there is a ready supply of A4000 style modules still available elsewhere.
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Post by HullBeebman » Tue May 22, 2018 5:28 am

Hi

Also two for me please.

Many thanks

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Post by matt_nottm » Tue May 22, 2018 7:39 am

BeebMaster wrote:I never ran out of Econet Modules, but I just haven't advertised them for a while as there is a ready supply of A4000 style modules still available elsewhere.
The key benefit of yours, they are socketed! =D>

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Post by IanS » Tue May 22, 2018 4:43 pm

matt_nottm wrote:
BeebMaster wrote:I never ran out of Econet Modules, but I just haven't advertised them for a while as there is a ready supply of A4000 style modules still available elsewhere.
The key benefit of yours, they are socketed! =D>
I don't belive they are, the two I have don't have sockets.

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Post by matt_nottm » Tue May 22, 2018 4:57 pm

IanS wrote:
matt_nottm wrote:
BeebMaster wrote:I never ran out of Econet Modules, but I just haven't advertised them for a while as there is a ready supply of A4000 style modules still available elsewhere.
The key benefit of yours, they are socketed! =D>
I don't belive they are, the two I have don't have sockets.
Ah, I was simply going by the photo at:
http://www.beebmaster.co.uk/BeebShop/BMEconet1.html

If the modules were not built as yet and had a socket option, it would be a yes please from me! :D

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Post by z0m8ied0g » Tue May 22, 2018 8:48 pm

Hi,

Please put me down for a 4 station BBC starter kit.

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Post by stevebubs » Thu May 24, 2018 12:12 am

BeebMaster wrote:I still get enquiries about my long-defunct BBC Model B Econet Upgrade Kit, so I thought I would see if there was any interest on here in me doing yet another "final" batch! I've looked into it a bit and it might be a goer for 20+ kits. Assuming I can get all the parts and enough of them, I would try to hold the price insofar as I can remember what it was last time around, but likely to be around £35-£40 mark, lower end for forum members and higher end for any unsold that I offload elsewhere.

I was thinking also I might revive my 2/3/4 station "starter packs" with Clock, interfaces (choice of Master style module or BBC B kit), terminators and DIN cables.
A 3 station starter pack for BBC B would be very interesting

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Post by Lardo Boffin » Thu May 24, 2018 8:32 am

I haven’t used econet since school but would be bery interested now I have 3 model Bs and a Master (along with various co-procs).
What would I need to connect them up? A 4 computer starter kit? Ideally I would like to use the Master as the main computer and have a model B drive things (if that is possible). I am assuming the computer driving things would be too busy to do much else but really know very little about it.
I also assume I would need to fit econet to each beeb. Do you have kits for that as well?
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Post by danielj » Thu May 24, 2018 9:30 am

Assuming you're using an 8bit machine as a fileserver, it needs a coprocessor, hard drive (original, ide or BeebSCSI), and can't be used for anything else. You'll also need a clock: https://www.waitingforfriday.com/?p=19 is a good & cheap option!

Wealth of links from PaulV's page: https://www.retro-kit.co.uk/page.cfm/co ... an-Econet/ :)

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Post by BeebMaster » Tue May 29, 2018 10:55 pm

It's all happening. All the parts have either arrived or are on back order till the middle of June. I'm sorting out the packaging now.

I've also been testing the 68B54 and 75159, despite a reliable overseas supplier saying they were new parts, I knew they wouldn't/couldn't be, so they have been being put through their paces. Actually quite a few of the 68B54 date coded 1989 could well be new. There is a range of dates from 1983 to 1998. The 75159 definitely look reclaimed, although they have done a good job on cleaning the legs.

All 68B54 work, all 75159 work except one which was only transmitting on D-.

The BeebMaster Econet Module prototype (with ICs socketed) came in very handy for testing the 68B54 with a ZIF socket. Unfortunately - as identified in an earlier post - only the prototype came with socketed ICs, all the rest are soldered in. I should update the picture really.

I had a lot of fun using my Issue 2 Econet Beeb for testing the 75159, with a dinky little 14-pin ZIF socket I got in specially for the job.

Probably by the end of June when the remaining parts have arrived I'll be able to supply some kits.

There will be 25 kits in this run, at £35 each for forum members, any left over being offered elsewere at £40. There's a possibility of more if there is interest.

It seems to be the way to start an ordering topic, so I'll do that when the kits are ready.

Also I should be able to do some "starter packs" for N stations, where N is 2, 3, or 4 (or more if anyone wants) with
N x Econet interface (B/B+ kit or Econet Modules for Master 128 onwards)
1 x Clock
2 x terminator plug
N x Econet lead
Plus hopefully N x socket outlet/backbone cabling, still working on that side of things
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Post by lcww1 » Wed May 30, 2018 9:37 am

Good to hear that your kits are coming together Beebmaster!

And just to note in passing, with reference to Lardo Boffin’s question above, that there’s no specific requirement for a hard drive on a BBC Micro acting as an Econet fileserver - one can run L3FS quite happily from a single ADFS floppy! Indeed, by using a Gotek floppy emulator one could run L3FS with multiple virtual floppies with a minimum of fuss.....

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Post by 1024MAK » Wed May 30, 2018 5:30 pm

@BeebMaster, if the forum had a like button, I would definitely have clicked it for your post :D =D>

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Post by BeebMaster » Wed May 30, 2018 9:15 pm

Oh thank you, but shurely you if anyone have the power to create one??!!

And to corroborate, the L3 file server can run from ADFS formatted floppy disc is there isn't a hard drive handy. And if there isn't 1770 disc interface and ADFS available, Level 2 will work under (8271 or 1770) DFS and has practically the same functionality as L3 to the user station.
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Post by Lardo Boffin » Wed May 30, 2018 10:08 pm

All looking rather good and we definitely need a like button!
Any idea how much the starter packs would be? I would be looking at model B as the server and then two model Bs to connect along with a Master. Currently I have no econet kit so would need everything!
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