IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

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IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by IanS » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:11 pm

With the very kind help of John Kortink, I have a small number of IDE podules available. (5 of each type)

They both have 40 Pin 0.1" pitch connectors, so if you want to plug in a CF to IDE adapter you'll need to find one with a 40-pin header, or combine it with a suitable adapter.

The instructions for partitioning and formatting can be found in the download on John's web-site - http://www.zeridajh.org/software/zidefs/index.htm

I haven't done a lot of testing on RISC PC/A7000 series machines, but the 16-bit version should work fine. Most of my testing has been on A3xx/A4xx machines for the 16-bit podule, and an A3000 for the 8-bit podule.

Both types are available for £20 each. Ideally collected in-person at the Wakefield show this coming Saturday. I should be there from about lunchtime, till the show close.

A jumper on each board makes the board run as "ZIDEFS" or "IDEFS" as the filing system name. Unless you have an existing drive to use which may have hard-coded paths, I recommend using "ZIDEFS" (the device id, partitioning and !hform tools only work on "ZIDEFS")

You will probably have to organise some sort of adapter and power cable (specifically for the 8-bit version). Hopefully the boards are cheap enough to tempt you into a bit of DIY.

Let me know if you can collect (PM or add a reply) at wakefield on Saturday. Any left I may offer for £20 plus postage. Depending on interest I may look at producing another batch.
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16-bit version
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8-bit (A3000/A3010/A3020/A4000)
8-bit
1. RobC CAW*
2. Boydie CAW*
3. marcusjambler CAW*
4. z0m8ied0g CAW*
5.
post/second batch
markrwj - Posted
matt_nottm - Posted
SarahWalker - Posted

16-bit
1. paulv CAW*
2. z0m8ied0g CAW*
3. daveejhitchins CAW*
4.
5.
post/second batch
a.n.other (PM request) - Posted
Kazzie - Posted
matt_nottm - Posted
trixster- Posted
JonC - Posted

*CAW - collected at Wakefield
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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by lcww1 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:05 pm

Wow! This is a fantastic bit of work Ian =D> =D> :D

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by RobC » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:18 pm

I'd like one of the minipodule versions if still available please.

I've got a stand at Wakefield on Saturday so will be around all day...

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by IanS » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:30 pm

RobC wrote:I'd like one of the minipodule versions if still available please.
I've started a list in the original post

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by paulv » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:34 pm

I'd like to have a 16-bit card for one of my A310's please.

Can pick up at Wakefield too.

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by Boydie » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:45 am

A3000 version please
Can collect at Wakefield

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Post by marcusjambler » Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:55 am

I'd like a mini podule please :D
I too can collect at wakefield show

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by IanS » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:06 am

Lists updated.

For anyone who doesn't know me. Daniel Jameson (stand 5) has agreed to act as match-maker. If you can't find me, Daniel should be able to point me out. Thanks Daniel.

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Post by daveejhitchins » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:34 am

Could you bring me a Mini Podule, please Ian . . . For a.n.other! Although I was thinking of reverse engineering it :mrgreen:

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by Kazzie » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:34 am

I won't be at Wakefield, but I'd be interested in a card for my A420/1, please.

This would be a lot quicker than debugging and attempting to repair the thing's ST506 controller. (Random read errors, invariably succeeds on retry.)
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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by markrwj » Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:30 am

I'd like one for my A3000 - so that would be an 8-bit podule as I understand it. Unfortunately I have no way of getting to Wakefield so would have to hope you could post me one. I am in the Netherlands. If I dont get in on this round ... I would be happy to be added to the list for a next round if they get made.

Thanks

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Post by matt_nottm » Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:21 am

Hi, I would like one of each style please (A3000 and A440), but I am unable to make Wakefield. I would be happy to be added to the list for a next round if they get made to allow Wakefield attendees first dibs. Happy to pay UK P&P.

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Post by trixster » Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:55 am

Would love an 8bit and 16bit please! If still available, and by post!
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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by IanS » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:02 pm

trixster wrote:Would love an 8bit and 16bit please! If still available, and by post!
Are you coming to wakefield? (it alters where you go on the list)

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by IanS » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:26 pm

IanS wrote:
trixster wrote:Would love an 8bit and 16bit please! If still available, and by post!
Are you coming to wakefield? (it alters where you go on the list)
I should probably learn to read, it says "by post" in the original entry. #-o

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Post by z0m8ied0g » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:12 pm

I'll have one of each if that's ok.
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Post by SarahWalker » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:57 am

I'd like an 8-bit one please!

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Post by JonC » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:52 pm

If there's any left, could I have a 16 bit one for my A310 please Ian, via post?

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by IanS » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:36 pm

I just about have enough PCB's to cover the people already listed in the first post. (I need to order some more of the long headers for the 8-bit boards)
I'll contact you over the next week or so, to organise payment and postage, just don't expect it happen quickly. Anyone who is going to the Abug in June who can wait, I'd appreciate not having to post (and it will be cheaper without P&P).

I may make another batch, but I'm going to wait a while until I've had some feedback from the people who already have boards. Who will be first to claim success (or failure :( )

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Post by RobC » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:56 pm

IanS wrote:I may make another batch, but I'm going to wait a while until I've had some feedback from the people who already have boards. Who will be first to claim success (or failure :( )
Well my 8-bit podule is working happily in my A3010 with a CF card :D =D>

Haven't tried multiple partitions yet but it's looking good.

Many thanks for the work you've put in on this.

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by IanS » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:14 pm

RobC wrote:
IanS wrote:I may make another batch, but I'm going to wait a while until I've had some feedback from the people who already have boards. Who will be first to claim success (or failure :( )
Well my 8-bit podule is working happily in my A3010 with a CF card :D =D>
Excellent news, thanks for the feedback.

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by Cutter » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:17 pm

If there are any available, I'd like an 8bit one (for an A3000) by post.

Thank you!

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by IanS » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:20 pm

Cutter wrote:If there are any available, I'd like an 8bit one (for an A3000) by post.

Thank you!
Sorry, all boards are now spoken for. If I do another batch I'll start a new thread.

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by Trapper » Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:28 pm

When you get more in I'd like to request one of each - one for my RISC PC and one for my A3010.

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by aotta » Wed May 02, 2018 10:16 pm

Oh no! I missed this 3ad since now.. In list for an 8 bit version, hoping in a New batch!

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by IanS » Thu May 03, 2018 8:25 pm

This doesn't quite fit in the for sale thread, but it hardly seems worth starting a new thread for this.

Anyone planning to use this CF adapter PCB with my IDE boards may find it useful to know that they will also accept +5v on pin 20.
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So if you are up to a bit of solering, you can add a wire link to supply +5 onto pin 20 of the IDE connector.
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You can then use the interface and adapter without any extra wires.
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(please ignore the slightly odd connector on this picture, all boards sent out have a right-angle connector on, so the adapter will plug straight in and fit within a single podule space)
The modification also works on the 8-bit boards, but you'll have to find a way to mount the adpter at a right-angle.

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by lcww1 » Thu May 03, 2018 8:41 pm

IanS wrote:You can then use the interface and adapter without any extra wires.
Fabulous! :D \:D/ =D>

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by aotta » Thu May 03, 2018 8:54 pm

Great! And in 8 bit version, 5v on pin 20 need extra wiring too?
Waiting for your next batch for testing!

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by alienkidmj12 » Fri May 04, 2018 9:18 am

missed this :( would have liked a3000 card

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Re: IDE podules - 8 and 16 bit versions

Post by Trapper » Sat May 05, 2018 9:11 pm

If you make anymore I am definitely interested in both a 16-bit RISC PC and 8-bit A3010 versions.

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