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Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:19 am
by richardtoohey

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:18 am
by daveejhitchins
richardtoohey wrote:Anyone mention Kingdom of Hamil?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Job-lot-of-Te ... 1598066256
Hmmm! They look interesting. I'll have a try for those, however, if anyone would 'really' like them . . .Let me know and I'll stay away :D

OK, I know . . . I don't usually 'do' games, but, with these there's no coordination involved :lol:

Dave H :D

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:30 pm
by lurkio
richardtoohey wrote:Anyone mention Kingdom of Hamil? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Job-lot-of-Te ... 1598066256
Oh, well spotted!
daveejhitchins wrote:Hmmm! They look interesting. I'll have a try for those, however, if anyone would 'really' like them . . .Let me know and I'll stay away :D
Personally I don't mind who gets to keep the originals so long as the archive finally gets a copy of Beeb Hamil. (As ever, I'm happy to contribute to a joint bid to try to make sure that that happens, if anyone's up for it and thinks it might help. PM me if you're interested.)

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:00 pm
by CMcDougall
richardtoohey wrote:Anyone mention Kingdom of Hamil?
sssh :-& I bid on those yesterday, still highest bidder, but only went £3.07, as would probably need BillC to work his magic on them. I will stop bidding higher if someone want's to keep the originals, as will prob go for £40+ ...... :(

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:16 pm
by leenew
my guess... £100 :roll:

Lee.

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:28 pm
by CMcDougall
^maybe Lee, but keep stoom.... and will go for £3.57 8)
me wrote:sssh :-&
just had a PM from a certain person, who can drive to collect them and image them within an hour, so leave well alone everyone!! :-

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:11 pm
by richardtoohey
CMcDougall wrote:leave well alone everyone!! :-
:-$ :-# :- [-o<

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:26 pm
by Arcadian
I'll keep my hands off too (there's only one disc I don't have - Hamil, so I can't really justify bidding anyway).

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:13 am
by daveejhitchins
:D OK, we need to do a bit of talking a looking at POSTs here!! I did say, earlier That I was interested but would stay away if someone else 'really' wanted these!!

Col . . . Did you miss that? 8)

I've also PM'ed with 'billcarr2005' Who is also bidding on these!! I did suggest to him that he mentioned his interest on the Forum. However, I offered to go halves on any bid, to ensure we get these into the Archive, and I wouldn't mind a copy myself :)

So, I'll pm billcarr2005 to make him aware of the current state of bidding. Let's get this sorted, so we're not bidding against each other and just pushing the price up and up.

To confirm . . . I'm out of the bidding but will happily contribute to whoever 'is' bidding.

Dave H :D

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:52 pm
by richardtoohey
Philosopher's Quest & Countdown to Doom also in another listing:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBC-Micro-Gam ... 1590641353

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:46 pm
by billcarr2005
Sorry all... despite my best efforts, i was sniped in the dying seconds and the disks sold for the grand total of £330.80 :(
I suppose there were 15 titles in total, but only the Topologika ones were anything approaching OMG RARE :?
Maybe there's the slightest possibility they'll withdraw their highest offer and i'll get first refusal :roll:

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:25 pm
by daveejhitchins
That's a real shame . . . Wonder who bagged the prize, maybe we'll never know :?

Dave H :D

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:40 pm
by lurkio
billcarr2005 wrote:i was sniped in the dying seconds and the disks sold for the grand total of £330.80
Image

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:45 pm
by richardtoohey
billcarr2005 wrote:sold for the grand total of £330.80
I need to sit down ... :shock:

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:17 pm
by CMcDougall
you forgot the £6.50 postage too :shock:
that is a bummer, hopefully the buyer images them for the archive, and does not just leave them in a cupboard to rot :(
if they don't image them onto this forum, I hope they are all blank and kill his /her disc drives! :lol:

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:19 pm
by richardtoohey
CMcDougall wrote:kill his /her disc drives! :lol:
Or how about corrupts their DFS into ADFS, just for you, Col? :twisted: :wink:

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:53 pm
by billcarr2005
CMcDougall wrote:you forgot the £6.50 postage too :shock:
Possibly more than that, since it's winging it's way to Canada!
http://www.mocagh.org/
CMcDougall wrote: that is a bummer, hopefully the buyer images them for the archive, and does not just leave them in a cupboard to rot :(
The new owner doesn't have a BBC micro :(
Even worse, Kingdom of Hamil is a duplicated title in his collection! It's possible it'll appear on eBay again being resold :roll:

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:03 pm
by lurkio
billcarr2005 wrote:it's winging it's way to Canada! http://www.mocagh.org/ The new owner doesn't have a BBC micro :( Even worse, Kingdom of Hamil is a duplicated title in his collection! It's possible it'll appear on eBay again being resold :roll:
It's definitely going to MOCAGH then? Do you think it might be worth trying to arrange to copy the disc, given this statement re copying games on the MOCAGH homepage?: "In special cases where the item is exceedingly rare, we may be willing to make exceptions however."

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:22 pm
by galax
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Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:15 pm
by lurkio
galax wrote:I'm going to be over that side of the country later this year, if no-one else has managed to by then I'll ask him very nicely if he'll let me image the disks, worth a try...
Great idea! Thanks. I'll email and ask him now.

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:24 pm
by lurkio
lurkio wrote:
galax wrote:I'm going to be over that side of the country later this year, if no-one else has managed to by then I'll ask him very nicely if he'll let me image the disks, worth a try...
Great idea! Thanks. I'll email and ask him now.
I contacted the maintainer of MOCAGH.org and he confirmed he wants to sell his copy of the Beeb version of Kingdom Of Hamil, for £80 plus postage. I asked if he'd be willing to arrange for it to be copied instead; his response: "If Hamil was not for sale, I would indeed consider arranging to have it imaged. Since it is for sale though, you and/or your group can just purchase it - I think my price is reasonable for this item. If not, it'll go up on ebay again once I've received it and have time to list it and you can try your chances there, perhaps it will sell for less. If you only want to image it, you can of course sell it again when you are done with it."

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:46 am
by daveejhitchins
lurkio wrote:I contacted the maintainer of MOCAGH.org and he confirmed he wants to sell his copy of the Beeb version of Kingdom Of Hamil, for £80 plus postage.
There must be enough members to chip-in for the purchase??

Dave H :D

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:11 am
by billcarr2005
I'm in two minds about this, especially since MOCAGH is all about preservation of the titles.
On the one hand, it's a title which is missing from the archives, so must not be that common.
On the other hand, it's shameless profiteering valuing this title at around 25% of the total auction price with another 14 games - 4 of which are also Toplogika titles! :cry:

I suppose if there's no rush for it to be archived, we could always wait until it pops up on eBay, all depends on the starting price anyway...

Did anybody here on manage to get the other Topologika titles on this auction (for a song!)?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141590641353

I was going to bid, but forgot to ask about it here, so thought it best not to tread on any toes :)

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:02 am
by danielj
Dave: I was thinking yes, but I really don't like the guy's tone... Rather mercenary.

d.

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:35 pm
by CMcDougall
billcarr2005 wrote:anybody here on manage to get the other Topologika titles on this auction (for a song £24.47+3.90PP)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141590641353
I got to £16, then went to bed. But, looking at the buyer of the last lot " Member Id: e***n ( 2283)", it's the same person again 'http://www.mocagh.org/' :roll:
Looking at the 'museam of computer adv' / things to rot inside a corpse's shell :evil: he already has the Amstrad PCW version:
http://www.mocagh.org/loadpage.php?getgame=hamil-alt

So, looks like he is just a leacher, and probably been watching this very thread..... [-(

I would swear (Lots), but, not wanting any more PMs from Samwise :lol:
hamil.JPG
rip
:-({|=

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:46 pm
by richardtoohey
Not everyone is in it for love/preservation/nostalgia/fun, shocking though that may seem! :shock:

I don't mind chipping in for a group effort to get this - but might be better taking chances on eBay rather than giving in to the £80 price? Obviously on eBay it might go higher than £80 (and if he has some chums bid it up to near that level?)

There's no good answer where we all get to win ... :(

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:48 am
by lurkio
I suppose you might say that if you're running a museum that's supposedly dedicated to the preservation of adventure games for posterity, and you're contacted by someone from a group that's also trying to preserve some of the same games, then you might raise eyebrows if you make no attempt to help that group by, say, delaying the sale of a particular game till the group can archive it, but just try to sell it to them for a not inconsiderable sum instead.

You might very well say that, but I couldn't possibly comment.

You might then change tack slightly and cite the case of another sort of museum -- one that's concerned with computing history, say -- and you might name three different eBay accounts that seem to be associated with this museum (or at least with a person therefrom) -- and you might point out that at least one of those accounts initially gives no indication that it has anything to do with the Centre museum at all, and you might claim that that could lead to misunderstandings and even to some buyers feeling they'd been deceived.

But I'd respond by saying that you'd wandered into the realms of fantasy, and that I couldn't imagine any circumstances in which any of the above could possibly happen -- and anyway, caveat emptor, and all that -- and that museum people are all completely honest and straightforward, and that you're getting worked up about absolutely nothing. That's what I'd say.

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:07 am
by richardtoohey
I get the feeling that there's some extra meaning hidden between your lines ... :-k

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 10:52 pm
by CMcDougall
billcarr2005 wrote:Kingdom of Hamil is a duplicated title in his collection! It's possible it'll appear on eBay again being resold :roll:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KINGDOM-OF-HA ... 6016.l4276
start bid £45 or BIN £90 :shock: lol
hamil.JPG
from : finesse (2322)
says from "Montreal, QC, Canada", so is the same person /'tw@t' as before : e***n ( 2283) :x :roll:

Re: Topologika Adventures

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:41 am
by paulb
Meanwhile, in some other forum (or some other universe), some conservationists are wondering whether a rescuer of endangered animals is acquiring them for his private zoo or, via the taxidermist, purely for display on his wall. :(