To Hell In A Hamper (2006) — an old new game

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To Hell In A Hamper (2006) — an old new game

Post by lurkio » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:04 pm

The single-location "room-escape" text adventure game To Hell In A Hamper is now available from bbcmicro.co.uk:

http://bbcmicro.co.uk/game.php?id=3199

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The original game was quirky, ingenious, and amusing. The BBC BASIC port is nicely implemented and fun to play, although it's a bit slow because of all the floppy-disc accesses.

To Hell In A Hamper was originally written by J.J. Guest using the ADRIFT development system. The BBC BASIC port was created by Dave Edwards (who also seems to have written a review of his own work!?). One of the original author's suggested tweaks was then incorporated and a couple of bugs were fixed, and the result was the version that's now online at bbcmicro.co.uk. A summary of the changes:
  • Added the synonym X for the EXAMINE command
  • And the synonyms I and INV for the INVENTORY command
  • Fixed a bug where <rot13> bcravat gur cnepry jbhyq bcra vg ohg gura fnl vg pna'g or bcrarq! </rot13>
  • Fixed the crash mentioned in the CASA walkthrough (rot13: RKNZVAR YVAVAT)
  • Corrected some typos
  • Added a space after the "What now?" prompt
  • Disabled the Escape key (in !BOOT)
  • Fixed a bug where <rot13> rknzvavat gur napube ebcr </rot13> would end the program!
  • Tweaked cursor on/off transitions
  • Fixed a bug where <rot13> TRG UNAQ sbyybjrq ol GUEBJ UNAQ </rot13> would crash when repeated
  • Added synonym <rot13> GVA {OBK} sbe OBK </rot13>
  • Added synonym <rot13> PBNG sbe BIREPBNG </rot13>
  • Handled just <rot13> UVG UHOREG </rot13>
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EDIT: obfuscated spoilers.
EDIT: more bugfixes.
EDIT: changed release year from 2003 to 2006 because of this: https://web.archive.org/web/20121104023 ... guest.html
EDIT: more synonyms.
EDIT: handled another command.
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Re: To Hell In A Hamper (2003) — an old new game

Post by Dave_E » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:59 pm

Ideally I wouldn't have written a review of my own conversion but back in the days of EUG, I had to wear quite a few hats. I recall it took me about a week to write this. Worth it I think though. A really good adventure which BBC/Elk owners otherwise would never have seen.

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Re: To Hell In A Hamper (2003) — an old new game

Post by lurkio » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:16 am

Dave_E wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:59 pm
I recall it took me about a week to write this. Worth it I think though.
Definitely! Did you have to disassemble/decompile the ADRIFT version? (I don't know how ADRIFT works at all.) Or was it a different version that you ported?

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Post by Dave_E » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:34 am

Oooh, now you're asking. If I remember correctly, I had the solution and I wrote the whole thing first by following it through. Then I was able to get a list of all the messages in the game and the variables that were set for them to appear, so then I just put them in. Obviously there was *so* much text that it *had* to be split up into all of the different files, because clearly it wasn't written with any of the Electron's limitations in mind...!

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Post by leenew » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:37 am

Hi Dave,
While you are online.... could I direct your attention here for a moment? :wink: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15952&p=241419&hili ... es#p241406

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Re: To Hell In A Hamper (2003) — an old new game

Post by Rod C » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:38 am

I've been having some fun with this quirky adventure today. Found lots of things but can't work out what to do with most of them.

Just want to say thanks and also there seems to be a bug which crashes the program after <rot 13> rknzvar napube ebcr </rot 13>. This happened consistently until I made a bit more progress then it didn't crash (but didn't help either).

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Post by BigEd » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:47 am

Thanks for the rot13!

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Post by lurkio » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:43 am

Rod C wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:38 am
I've been having some fun with this quirky adventure today. Found lots of things but can't work out what to do with most of them.
Have you tried the HINT command?

Rod C wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:38 am
Just want to say thanks and also there seems to be a bug which crashes the program after <rot 13> rknzvar napube ebcr </rot 13>. This happened consistently until I made a bit more progress then it didn't crash (but didn't help either)
Thanks. I’ll have a look.

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Post by Rod C » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:25 pm

Have you tried the HINT command?
Ahh, there are hints!! They look a bit like spoilers so I'll try to resist temptation but I think I have some direction now.

By the way, tempting though it is to push my companion it seems that he is "har too heave for me to move"

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Post by Rod C » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:28 pm

Love the crazy humour in this game. Found another bug too. If I <rot13> guebj unaqxrepuvrsf </rot13> Hubert intervenes, then if I try to take them again, we crash out with : No such FN/PROC at line 1570.

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Post by lurkio » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:01 pm

Rod C wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:28 pm
Love the crazy humour in this game. Found another bug too. If I <rot13> guebj unaqxrepuvrsf </rot13> Hubert intervenes, then if I try to take them again, we crash out with : No such FN/PROC at line 1570.
Thanks. I've fixed this bug and the previous ones you reported.

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Post by Rod C » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:38 pm

Huzzah!!! I finally survived but needed one big hint near the end or I would have gone loonier than Mr Booby. Thanks guys!

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Post by lurkio » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:21 pm

Rod C wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:38 pm
Huzzah!!! I finally survived but needed one big hint near the end or I would have gone loonier than Mr Booby. Thanks guys!
Well done, and thanks for the bug reports!

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Post by lurkio » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:00 pm

Rod C wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:38 pm
needed one big hint near the end
Was it to do with <rot13> ZNXR CNENPUHGR </rot13> by any chance?

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Post by Rod C » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:46 pm

HA HA I think I can say yes to that without even decoding! I tried every combination of actions I could think of until my brain hurt. A couple of things seemed to be false clues too but that's fine. After getting the decisive hint I thought it was so random that nobody could ever get it but now I think about it the clues are there. I just needed to think outside the rut I was in. I probably gave in too quickly because it would be a buzz to get it. Perhaps it would be one of those problems where you sleep on it and then the answer appears from nowhere...

A great little game that has made me think I might try some other adventures. Probably have another go at Maze of Madness when my brain settles down! :lol:

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Post by Dave_E » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:18 am

Nice to see this has finally got a bit of love... You could always play my game Sunday too:

http://www.everygamegoing.com/egg/landi ... le/Sunday/

It's not on the BBC archive site for some reason, although To Hell And A Hamper is.

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Post by lurkio » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:20 am

Dave_E wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:18 am
You could always play my game Sunday too:

http://www.everygamegoing.com/egg/landi ... le/Sunday/

It's not on the BBC archive site for some reason, although To Hell And A Hamper is.
I’ll have a look.

Btw, I notice the “Book” link seems to be broken..?

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Post by Dave_E » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:13 pm

I need to investigate how to fix that... It's the same for all books on the site. It times out before the book completes downloading. There must be a simple fix for this because I've downloaded huge files through the browser on other sites.

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Post by Dave_E » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:15 pm

Fixed.

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Post by lurkio » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:52 pm

Dave_E wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:18 am
Nice to see this has finally got a bit of love... You could always play my game Sunday too:

http://www.everygamegoing.com/egg/landi ... le/Sunday/
Is it me or is it impossible to get past the options screen?

I've tried various Beeb emulators.

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Post by Dave_E » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:20 am

From memory, you have to press M to stop the music before setting the options. There are full instructions on the Everygamegoing site:

https://www.everygamegoing.com/egg/land ... tle/Sunday

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