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Re: Help required for the new BBC games archive

Post by tricky » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:39 pm

Just checked, on my mobile, when you choose about from the menu brought up by the menu button, it takes you to an about page where the menu button does nothing.

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Re: Help required for the new BBC games archive

Post by pau1ie » Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:04 am

tricky wrote:Just checked, on my mobile, when you choose about from the menu brought up by the menu button, it takes you to an about page where the menu button does nothing.
Thanks Tricky, you are correct. I will look in to it. The sub pages were thrown together a bit, I suspect some of the files that need to be included to make it work are missing. I'll add it to my list.

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You can reproduce on a desktop by making the browser window narrow.

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Re: Help required for the new BBC games archive

Post by pau1ie » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:39 pm

tricky wrote:when you choose about from the menu brought up by the menu button, it takes you to an about page where the menu button does nothing.
Fixed. Also on links and contact pages which had the same problem.
Arcadian wrote:Screenshot for David McKeran's Pucman
fixed
leenew wrote:The Revs screenshot is incorrect.
fixed
leenew wrote:Gomoku by 2 different software houses have the same screen shot.
fixed
leenew wrote:This is going to be an interresting test of how easy it is to edit the site.

Attached are the newly renamed Plan B 2 ssd and the new spreadsheet to go with it.
Plan B2 name corrected and SSD renamed.
Arcadian wrote:Screenshot for Meteors by Your Computer is also wrong
Fixed
leenew wrote:Holed Out, Zen, E-Type, and Astroblaster are missing.
Still outstanding. Have I missed anything else?
leenew wrote:What'sthe next 'feature' being worked on?
What do you want? I want the play button, except that I will get loads of reports of wrong screenshots!
Genre search, release type, and refining the title search are still outstanding. I think I will refine the title search.
Arcadian wrote:Just tried to search for 'Maze Man'
I think all I need to do is replace spaces with wild cards in the search so a search on "Maze Man" returns "Maze-Man".

Then I will add the play button.

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PaulH

PS - Who added the menu.php and the links page? Good work!

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Re: Help required for the new BBC games archive

Post by Arcadian » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:43 pm

Good work Paul! :)

Richard implemented the list of Links so I assume he added the menu file too! :)
For a "Complete BBC Games Archive" visit www.bbcmicro.co.uk

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Re: Help required for the new BBC games archive

Post by pau1ie » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:34 pm

The remaining missing screen shots are done (Apart from the dodgy mode 7 ones). For Zen, I had to make the disc writeable in b-em, then

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*access t.check
as the loader ("MAIN") checks that this file is writeable. I suspect other files also needs to be writeable, but I didn't investigate which.

Holed out needs sideways RAM to work properly.

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Re: Help required for the new BBC games archive

Post by pau1ie » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:05 pm

Latest update changes search to fix the maze man issue Arcadian reported, and adds play button.

Next I will import the release type into the database and I will be in a position to refine the search.

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Re: Help required for the new BBC games archive

Post by BigEd » Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:29 am

pau1ie wrote:Latest update ... adds play button.
Wow - wonderful! Is this released or still a semi-private preview? I notice no-one is linking directly to the site.

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Post by hoglet » Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:59 am

BigEd wrote:
pau1ie wrote:Latest update ... adds play button.
Wow - wonderful! Is this released or still a semi-private preview? I notice no-one is linking directly to the site.
It's the name of this forum section!
http://bbcmicro.co.uk/

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Post by BigEd » Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:06 am

hoglet wrote:
BigEd wrote:I notice no-one is linking directly to the site.
It's the name of this forum section!
Indeed it is - but until your post, no-one had posted a clickable link, AFAICT. But I see now that there is such a link in the github repo:
https://github.com/pau1ie/bbcmicro.co.uk

So I suppose the news is out!

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Post by hoglet » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:51 am

BigEd wrote: Indeed it is - but until your post, no-one had posted a clickable link, AFAICT. But I see now that there is such a link in the github repo:
https://github.com/pau1ie/bbcmicro.co.uk

So I suppose the news is out!
Actually, there were one or two links earlier in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=11165&start=90#p141217

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Re: Help required for the new BBC games archive

Post by BigEd » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:52 am

My mistake! Sorry.

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Re: Help required for the new BBC games archive

Post by BigEd » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:57 am

Two suggestions:
- a link on the About page to the github repo and to this thread
- enable search by genre

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Post by jbnbeeb » Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:24 am

I'd just like to say thanks to all those that have contributed (Richard, Pau1ie?, Lee, DaveM - apologies if I've missed anyone - it's a big thread :) ) - to putting up bbcmicro.co.uk . =D> =D> =D> =D> :D

It's looking great already, and I understand more updates are to follow. It's also really, really fast. If only more modern websites remembered to keep it simple and not clog up with telephone-directory sized javascript code and goodness knows what else.

I agree with Simon - the Acorn "scene" really needs this to make it easy for new people to find and play games they want/remember etc.

Thanks all once again.

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Post by BigEd » Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:31 am

Yes, big thanks!

Another wrinkle: the per-game pages don't presently have a Play button.

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Post by leenew » Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:34 am

I believe Paul is working on search by genre.
I would like a keyword search option too if possible.
I may have some of this covered already as I have marked quite a lot of arcade clones with the original name in the secondary genre field.
Eg a search for defender should bring up both guardian and planetoid. (Not by default though I don't think...)

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Re: Help required for the new BBC games archive

Post by BigEd » Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:45 am

Very good point - all those clones should be indexed under both original and clone name!

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Post by pau1ie » Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:24 pm

Hi

Please can you have a think how search ought to work? I am inclined to stick to the original spec because while we have had a lot of ideas since then it is difficult to imagine how they will work together without totally confusing the user. See also my question on 20th July 7:57pm. I am very keen not to have to rework the interface because it is too confusing/complicated. I only have limited time to work on the site!

Anyway I will get the release type into the database next, and displayed on the game page, along with a play button. I will get the site advertised in the retrocomputing round table podcast. Are there any other places we should advertise it?

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Post by leenew » Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:09 pm

Hi Paul,
Keep up the good work please :D
Is there a quick way of printing off a list of the poor mode 7 screenshots so they can be re-done?
Also, what is the right format to take them again?
Thanks,

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Post by pau1ie » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:06 pm

Turned out this week was busy, so I didn't make much progress. I am working on getting the release type in to the database at present.

There is not really a way of identifying the poor mode 7 screenshots. The ones named Disc* are ones I took, so are fine, so the others may need to be redone. I attach a list of maybes.

I just used b-em with the default settings, ran the game until I got to a representative gameplay screen, and took a screenshot without window decoration, then saved it. I did have post a script in an earlier post which could be adapted for those who run linux.

Here is the list of upscaled screenshots. Columns are id, disc image filename, screenshot filename.
screenshots.csv
Upscaled screenshots.
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Post by leenew » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:37 pm

Hi,
I have attached a list of the bad screen shots that I have noticed.
Most of the MODE7 shots are text adventures, and because of the way Mick organised his discs, these can all be found on discs 91 to 100. This should make it easier to re take the majority of them :D
I have also highlighted some others that either appear bad, or do not represent the game.

Any volunteers to re-take some of these? [-o<
I am a bit busy now until next week....
screenshots.xls
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Thanks in advance,

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Post by simonm » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:53 pm

Great work guys. The ability to play direct in jsbeeb is awesome.

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Post by leenew » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:10 am

Hi,
I see 10 people have downloaded the list - thanks.
Are you co-ordinating with each other to make it 10 times quicker? :D

Lee.

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Post by sydney » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:14 am

I may get some time on Wednesday but it's my birthday so there may be plans I don't know about. Otherwise it'll be next Wednesday before I have any spare time.

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Post by leenew » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:15 am

Surely the screenshots take priority over your birthday Simon :roll:

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Post by sydney » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:33 pm

I agree Lee. If you survive telling my wife that then I'll happily spend all day Wednesday taking screenshots!

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Post by leenew » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:39 pm

err.... maybe you should leave it till after :wink:
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Post by leenew » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:14 pm

I normally use BeebEm, so I have just installed B-Em to have a quick look.
When taking a screenshot in png or bmp format the file is 942K in size. Is this OK?

Has anyone started these yet?

If no one replies soon, I am going to attempt discs 91-95 at work tomorrow.
B-Em - small border - png format

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Post by sydney » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:58 pm

I used Beeb-em and simply changed the screen capture options to 640x512 and PNG Format.

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Post by leenew » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:07 pm

Aaaarghhhh!
Just completed discs 91 92 93 94 and 95 then seen this^^

Screenshots now 8K instead of 942K!!

I will start again :evil:

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Post by sydney » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:40 pm

leenew wrote:Aaaarghhhh!
Just completed discs 91 92 93 94 and 95 then seen this^^

Screenshots now 8K instead of 942K!!

I will start again :evil:

Lee.
:oops:
Just had a go at this myself and the screenshots are not great at 640x512 but look much better at 1280x1024 then reduced in size to 640x512. Maybe it's something to do with the textual nature of the pictures. Graphical games all seemed ok.

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