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Game information - help required

Post by leenew » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:55 am

Hi there,
bbcmicro.co.uk has very little information about a number of games.
Can you help?
Do you know if any of the following games were a commercial release - you had to pay actual money for them?
Do you know the publisher?
Were any a type-in from a magazine? or a book?
Are any in the public domain?
Do you know the author of any that we don't?
Do you know when Pop Quiz Master or Daark Adventure were released?

Take a look: http://bbcmicro.co.uk/index.php?rt_R=&r ... =on&sort=u

Thanks for looking, and *any* info will be helpful.

Lee.

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Post by danielj » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:59 pm

I think dodgems was on the electron introductory tape?

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Post by davidb » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:23 pm

danielj wrote:
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I think dodgems was on the electron introductory tape?
Yes, that's right. Also on Arcade Action, though maybe a different version.

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Post by davidb » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:28 pm

Crazy Balloon was an unreleased Acornsoft game, according to the STH.

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Post by leenew » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:49 pm

Hi
danielj, and davidb, unfortunately the electron cassette contains a different version of of dodgems, as does arcade action.
Also, (I knew this would get mentioned) crazy balloon is in fact nothing to do with Acornsoft, but a 'hoax' from back in the day. Rich TW debunked the Acornsoft theory a while ago in a different thread. It would be nice to know who actually wrote it.
Thanks for looking though :D

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Post by iamaran » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:49 pm

The author of Daark is potentially one S.P. Halliwell:

http://solutionarchive.com/game/id%2C2136/Daark.html

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Post by Rich Talbot-Watkins » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:05 am

Yeah actually I'd love to know where Crazy Balloon came from originally. Someone must know.

(Maybe Dave M knows where he got the original disk image from? Eventually these things have to trace back to their source!)
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Post by jms2 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:48 am

Dodgems certainly wasn’t on my Electron Introductory cassette. Is there a later version?

Mine only had Marslander and Bugzap. I think.

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Post by danielj » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:05 am

I don't think so. I had an issue 2 from new (early 84), and it's definitely on there (about the 5th program?) - I actually loaded it off the original tape last night just to reassure myself I wasn't imagining it!

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Post by leenew » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:25 pm

iamaran wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:49 pm
The author of Daark is potentially one S.P. Halliwell:

http://solutionarchive.com/game/id%2C2136/Daark.html
Cheers Aran. I had already clocked that over at CASA 8)

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Post by jms2 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:53 pm

danielj wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:05 am
I don't think so. I had an issue 2 from new (early 84), and it's definitely on there (about the 5th program?) - I actually loaded it off the original tape last night just to reassure myself I wasn't imagining it!
You've got me wondering now. I don't have my original tape any more but I do have the disc version and I've not noticed it on there and I'm sure I never played it.
I'm going to go and read up what I can find on the Introductory Cassette to see if it jogs any memories.

EDIT: Found it... but I still don't really remember it. #-o
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Post by davidb » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:16 pm

Dodgems is on the Introductory cassette for the Electron, but I'll have to try the one from bbcmicro to see how it's different..
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Post by leenew » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:00 am

Yep, the 'dodgems' or 'head-on' genre is quite a popular one for coders and we have quite a few on bbcmicro.co.uk,http://bbcmicro.co.uk/index.php?rt_R=&r ... =on&sort=b it's that specific one I need to find the source for.

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Post by joachim » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:52 am

Gladiator displays "(C) BEEBUG" when it starts. And the listing of Sea Battle contains the notice "(C) YOUR COMPUTER". And the loader for Millipede has an Acornsoft copyright notice (unless you think it's another fake like Crazy Balloon).

And the listing of "Caves of Trall" contains some comments in Danish/Norwegian/Swedish, if that helps.

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Post by leenew » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:00 am

Hi Joachim,
Thanks for looking carefully 8)

Gladiator: In the notes for Gladiator (you may have to scroll down), I note that I have checked through all Beebug magazines and I couldn't find it.
It may be on a games compilation tape I don't know about (much like "Splat the Rat" which I am fairly sure will turn out to be Beebug).

Sea Battle: There *IS* an early Your Computer game named Sea Battle https://archive.org/details/your-comput ... 7/page/n89 but this is actually Air-Sea Battle http://www.bbcmicro.co.uk/game.php?id=2929
Again, in my own notes, I have been through all available YOUR COMPUTER magazines and cannot find the listing.
Archive.org has most but not all issues of Your Computer.

Missing issues: July 1983, September 1983, November 1983, August 1986, November 1986, May 1987, August 1987, September 1987, May 1988.

I could do with checking those missing issues really. Maybe it's in there?
They are available for purchase from AcornElectronWorld, so I may have to pull the trigger. (I have already bought A&B computing and Acorn Computing which were helpful...)

Millipede: Who knows?! - maybe someone does! It obviously was not published by Acornsoft, but maybe it was submitted and rejected? or as you say... another fake - but where from?

Caves of Trall: I will investigate this further... I don't fancy looking through all the 80s Swedish and Norwegian magazines though :lol:


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Post by leenew » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:26 am

If it helps.... the language in "Caves of Trall" AKA Cave Man.... is DANISH :D

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Post by leenew » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:17 pm

Does anyone have the missing 1983 YOUR COMPUTER magazines? JULY, SEPTEMBER and NOVEMBER...

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Post by leenew » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:10 pm

Rich Talbot-Watkins wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:05 am
Yeah actually I'd love to know where Crazy Balloon came from originally. Someone must know.

(Maybe Dave M knows where he got the original disk image from? Eventually these things have to trace back to their source!)

Rich, just a thought...
Are there any points of similarity between "Crazy Balloon", and "Balloon Fun" from Personal computer world 1983?
Disc029-CrazyBalloon.jpg

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Post by leenew » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:41 pm

Just for reference, here is the original "Crazy Balloon" arcade game.
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The wikipedia page for this game says that no home ports were released, but Acornsoft was developing one for the BBC micro.... :wink:

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Post by pau1ie » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:18 pm

This isn't one you asked about, but I think this ebay auction for a 331/2 RPM record:

Promotional Software for ZX81 Sinclair Spectrum BBC Micro B and more

[Edit - Now the auction has ended I updated the link. ]

is relevant to Robot Chase! (Being the only BBC Micro program on the disc).
Robotchase puts you in a minefield with a set of robots of your choice. Avoid the mines and evade the robots - choosing the degree of difficulty you think you can cope with!
The computer controls the robots, but it's not always brainy enough to keep them off the mines! Hi-res graphics - and music - need the full RAM of the 32k Beeb.
It appears this is a coverdisc for Which Mico & Software Review magazine. The listings are all printed inside the magazine.

Note: I believe the link will stop working properly once the auction finishes. If anyone can point me at how to correct this, I will edit the post so the link still works afterwards.
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Post by 1024MAK » Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:23 pm

I normally use www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273566937008

This will fail at some point in the future when eBay eventually deletes data of old listings.

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Post by BigEd » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:25 pm

You can feed such URLs to archive.is if you want them saved. (Or archive.org, probably.)

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Post by leenew » Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:01 am

pau1ie wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:18 pm
This isn't one you asked about, but I think this ebay auction for a 331/2 RPM record:

Promotional Software for ZX81 Sinclair Spectrum BBC Micro B and more


is relevant to Robot Chase! (Being the only BBC Micro program on the disc).
Robotchase puts you in a minefield with a set of robots of your choice. Avoid the mines and evade the robots - choosing the degree of difficulty you think you can cope with!
The computer controls the robots, but it's not always brainy enough to keep them off the mines! Hi-res graphics - and music - need the full RAM of the 32k Beeb.
It appears this is a coverdisc for Which Mico & Software Review magazine. The listings are all printed inside the magazine.

Note: I believe the link will stop working properly once the auction finishes. If anyone can point me at how to correct this, I will edit the post so the link still works afterwards.
Thanks Paul,
That's another publication I didn't know existed...
Does anyone have any??
*I am going to be cautious about crossing Robot Chase off the unknown list until I see the magazine listing.
I have found references to other "Robot Chase" games....

Lee

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Post by pau1ie » Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:19 pm

leenew wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:01 am
Does anyone have any??
That has been asked before, so i am inclined to think not. it looks like Cambridge centre for computing history has some though. An internet search only reveals an incomplete collection of covers.

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