ZX Spectrum next... Anybody backing ?

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Re: ZX Spectrum next... Anybody backing ?

Post by BigEd » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:01 pm

It's fine for you not to enjoy the same things that some other people do enjoy. It's fine for people to spend their time in ways which you wouldn't.

But what positive outcome could there be from challenging people to justify their interests?

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Post by crj » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:39 pm

Comprehension?

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Post by fordp » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:00 pm

crj wrote:Hmm. This sort of thing makes me realise many people experience retrocomputing in a completely different way from me.

It's cool to play with old hardware. It's cool to run old software. That game looks reasonably fun. But aren't they just running a modern game on modern hardware?
Since when was a Z80, or even a souped up Z80 modern hardware. I know what you are saying but blending old and new is great fun for me and I guess SOME others.

I always dreamt of using a modern ARM processor as the worlds fastest second processor on a BBC Micro and hoglet made this a reality a while ago. Is it retro or is it modern well of course it is both!
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Post by jonb » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:51 pm

crj wrote: But writing a new game which only runs on new hardware... that's just... writing a video game. Isn't it?
Yes, but it is written in Z80 assembler I assume, and that is an interesting endeavour to many. It's nice that they are able to share the fruits of their work, and nice that others have the ability to use their newly crafted software.

I'm tempted by the Next but I don't really play that much with computers (old or new) any more. This is a reflection of changing interests (since I bought a classic car, I have no time to compute) and returning to commuting (4 hours a day). Besides - I have several Spectrums including a 128K "Toastrack" model, so I think I can satisfy any Speccy cravings I might have in the future, without shelling out fro a Next.

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Post by Commie_User » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:29 pm

A bloke got a refund in court for the new handheld Spectrum being way too late to wait for. If this doesn't make the new thingamajig retro enough for some of us then I don't know what does.

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2018/02/01/zx-s ... d-in-court


Oh Sinclair and Acorn.

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Post by BigEd » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:36 pm

As I understand it, the Vega was a successful project, the Vega+ a disaster. The Spectrum Next appears to be going reasonably well - uncased boards were shipped many months ago, but the cased version is running a bit late. I assume if there was any big problem with the design, I would have heard, and there would have been time for it to be revised.

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Post by hoglet » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:58 pm

BigEd wrote:I assume if there was any big problem with the design, I would have heard, and there would have been time for it to be revised.
I believe changes have been made between the bare board release (PCB Issue 2A):
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and the cased release (PCB Issue 2B):
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I don't know what has been changed, but I expect they have added the missing capacitor around the voltage regulator. And hopefully some more decoupling generally! So those that waited for the cased release will get a better product.

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Post by dp11 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:08 pm

I'd still be interested to see the EMC test results.

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Post by Commie_User » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:13 pm

BigEd wrote:As I understand it, the Vega was a successful project, the Vega+ a disaster. The Spectrum Next appears to be going reasonably well - uncased boards were shipped many months ago, but the cased version is running a bit late. I assume if there was any big problem with the design, I would have heard, and there would have been time for it to be revised.
That sounds more like the 70s!

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Post by northernbob » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:30 am

some of you are gonna hate this demo :P (its in stereo btw)


https://youtu.be/KpRyLrphxBo
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Post by hoglet » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:50 am

northernbob wrote:some of you are gonna hate this demo :P (its in stereo btw)

https://youtu.be/KpRyLrphxBo
That's very nice! It's the work of Michael (Flash) Ware and Jim Bagley.

Open source as well:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6tvph6ljuyo42 ... r.zip?dl=0

It's (obviously) making use of the Spec Next's hardware sprites and 256 colour palette. Very cool.

So not just your average Spectrum demo!

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Post by pixelblip » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:00 am

Ok time to fan the flames of controversy! It's interesting for me this as it opens up a can of worms in my head :)

I think partly what makes the platform is it's limitations............the 7 colour clash of the speccy..........I keep seeing this and thinking hmmmmm 256 colours..........it's not a Spectrum anymore...... it's like an Amiga or a PC running 256 colour DOS! :lol: ..........it is good to see new hardware though.......good luck to them though.......it looks fun.

Sorry if I am straying a little here in this thread.....I was looking at this the other day after Paul reviewed it on The Spectrum Show...........I think it looks very interesting.

http://retroradionics.co.uk/shop.html#! ... category=0

I kept thinking *sigh* wouldn't it be good to have a BBC version of this ..........I guess this one works as the spectrum is small.....maybe it wouldn't work in a larger format.....I can see the BBC version having a screen built into the top of the lid.

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Post by northernbob » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:57 am

seems there is a THIRD processor in the next (dont mean any gpu)....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWo-ErpVZC4

its in the wifi module. the bloke in the vid has been working witht he module for a while and infact he created an ethernet connection with it.

no idea if this could be configured to work on the next. atmo the wifi module is linked to next os on a serial connection, which is very limited, butthis was setup by a chap who is very into connecting to bbs stuff. There is much more power locked into the esp module.

ethernet vid....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKnyAYKP434

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Post by northernbob » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:41 pm

first commercial next game has been released. it looks nice, but lacks a bit of polish.

Am suprised there is no ingame music. still there is some good stuff on show here...

https://youtu.be/RlPqOqh_ejw

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Post by jonb » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:26 am

Err... it's a copy of "Attic Attack" isn't it?

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Post by northernbob » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:36 am

yup

seems a bit slow paced to me??

btw some bad news...rick dickinson has passed away :(

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Post by northernbob » Sun May 06, 2018 11:21 am

am a bit stunned by this one....i cant actually believe this is a thing....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_Fni8V ... e=youtu.be

very interesting software!!

edit....HIGHLY recommend watching the other 4 vids in this series, impressive stuff imo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edL6I_6f3tY


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