Dragon 32 or Amstrad CPC 464

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Re: Dragon 32 or Amstrad CPC 464

Post by Ramtop » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:33 pm

guddler wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:01 pm
I think this may have been a lot of my logic too. I know the "real" keyboard was a massive attraction to me being that I was upgrading from a ZX81
Yes, I think you my be on the money there. I suppose most people didn't really know what they were buying so visible attributes were important; I certainly didn't have a clue. Way back when I upgraded from my ZX81 I knew very little about the various models on the market, so I walked in to the shop determined that I wanted a 'proper' computer rather than having a particular machine in mind.

I ended up getting a Commodore Plus/4, because it had a real keyboard (although a pretty squishy one as I would find out), more memory than most of the rest, and was the single best looking and most futuristic computer I'd ever seen. Fortunately the Plus/4 was a very good machine that served me well, but I really could have ended up with an awful pile of junk that just happened to look nice.
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Re: Dragon 32 or Amstrad CPC 464

Post by Richard Russell » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:23 am

adrm wrote:
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If you had to choose, which one is the preferred choice (for a collector)?
BBC BASIC is available for the Amstrad, but not (AFAIK) for the Dragon! There's a free download here.
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Re: Dragon 32 or Amstrad CPC 464

Post by adrm » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:25 pm

Richard Russell wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:23 am
adrm wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:21 pm
If you had to choose, which one is the preferred choice (for a collector)?
BBC BASIC is available for the Amstrad, but not (AFAIK) for the Dragon! There's a free download here.
I decided to let both computers go to someone else, and hope for a CPC Plus-model to appear locally instead.
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Re: Dragon 32 or Amstrad CPC 464

Post by spectron » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:53 pm

late to the party but for a Beeb owner I'd have thought the CPC was the obvious choice. It's an elegantly designed machine and hardware wise reminds me of a Z80 based BBC.

Same video generator and same resolution along with separate memory areas for OS and additional ROM (Basic on startup)

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Re: Dragon 32 or Amstrad CPC 464

Post by BigEd » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:48 pm

Not only is the 464 rumoured to have a decent keyboard, it can now be fitted with an Acorn-style second processor (in the form of a Raspberry Pi, running PiTubeDirect) thanks to the efforts of revaldinho. See this thread over on the CPCwiki forum.

(It's early days for this project - more software is needed to make a full second processor experience. It's helpful that the CPC's OS is a fairly good fit, and the video modes are cooperative too.)

Whereas, I'm not sure anyone has yet tried hooking up a second processor to a Dragon.

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Re: Dragon 32 or Amstrad CPC 464

Post by RobC » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:11 pm

BigEd wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:48 pm
Not only is the 464 rumoured to have a decent keyboard, it can now be fitted with an Acorn-style second processor (in the form of a Raspberry Pi, running PiTubeDirect) thanks to the efforts of revaldinho. See this thread over on the CPCwiki forum.
That's brilliant :D =D>
BigEd wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:48 pm
Whereas, I'm not sure anyone has yet tried hooking up a second processor to a Dragon.
Not that I know of but there was this which was about using a 64K Dragon as a 6809 second processor for the Beeb.

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Re: Dragon 32 or Amstrad CPC 464

Post by Prime » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:04 pm

BigEd wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:48 pm
Whereas, I'm not sure anyone has yet tried hooking up a second processor to a Dragon.
Shouldn't be that hard to implement, after all the Dragon's 6809 bus is essentially the same as the 6502's as they are both derived from the 6800 bus....

Software to drive it would be another thing however.

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Re: Dragon 32 or Amstrad CPC 464

Post by Kazzie » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:31 pm

I thought I could make a witty comment about how a second processor for a Dragon ought to run Double Dragon, but it turns out the original arcade version ran on the 6309/6809. :|
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