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Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:01 pm
by oss003
Ok, I'll give it a try.

Greetings
Kees

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:29 pm
by CMcDougall
hoglet wrote:in batch 3 there was a loader called MUNCH, was there anything following it, or preceding it?.
evening Dave, cheers for looking further into these for me, as had sweat running off my head just trying to get them to load!
anyways, nothing after that file, also checked the original tapes to double check, and confirm was only:
jb14 <names of .WAV files I gave when split up 3x sides of the copied TDK D90
QUEST load8200 call8200 lenBFF
jc1
BIORYTHMS 38D
ATOM MUNCH 1B7
HEXPAWN 782
jc2
3D MAZE 10B8

another little extra, I again used *FLOAD to get block A -12eb (started 3300) of "TRENDY TEST"
below, it works if just Load TRENDY, then Goto 795, Questions to find out how cool you are :)
as porky pig said, that's all folks 8)

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:27 pm
by oss003
I tested some programs from Colins batch:

BNAME:
Database for Names and Birthdays.
- Choose 1) WRITE to enter a few Names and Birthdays
- Choose 2) SAVE and enter a filename to to save this data in a sequential file
- Choose 3) LOAD to search for a Name or Birthday
- Choose 4) QUIT to end the program
The program is working without changes.

EINPUT,EPROC, EPROG, ETAB:
Generate extended Error Messages.
EINPUT is a program to enter the new error messages and is saved as ERRTAB at #8200
EPROG is the new errorhandler code and is saved as ERRPROC at #8700
There was a similar program in Acorn User 1983-02 Error Handling.
I have included a new ERRTAB and ERRPROC file with the right loadaddresses.
*LOAD ERRTAB 8200 and *LOAD ERRPROC 8700
To test it, type: ?#202=0;?#203=#87;DDFR
An error occurs and the extended message 'UNKNOWN OR MISSING FUNCTION' is displayed.
To use it in your program, include ?#202=0;?#203=#87 in your program.

Greetings
Kees

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:09 pm
by hoglet
Hi Kees,

Thanks for taking a look at these.

I'll try to package everything we have discussed so far, and release a V10Beta2 over the next few days.

A couple of things have rather surprised me:
- there isn't much in the archive from Acorn User
- there isn't much in the archive from Getting Acquainted with you Acorn Atom

Maybe not for V10 (unless someone is really keen), but beyond that we should make an effort to catalog and capture some of this content.

This thread has an index and PDF copies of all the Atom Acorn User articles:
viewtopic.php?t=7566
It would be good to work through the articles, and annotate the index with any that included significant programs worthy of inclusion.

Dave

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:22 pm
by hoglet
Just having a quick look through the Acorn User Articles, and GRAFSIGN and DIASSE in from Colin/Johns tapes are from Acorn User!

Dave

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:22 am
by jonno
hoglet wrote:Hi Kees,

A couple of things have rather surprised me:
- there isn't much in the archive from Acorn User
- there isn't much in the archive from Getting Acquainted with you Acorn Atom

Maybe not for V10 (unless someone is really keen), but beyond that we should make an effort to catalog and capture some of this content.

Dave

Dave, If I get some time over the summer hols, I'll dig out my copy of "Getting Acquainted..." and have a go at keying some of the programs in.

Any requests?

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:10 am
by oss003
hoglet wrote:Anyone familiar with these programs, or know who "S YEWDALL" was?
Found S Yewdall ....
Stephen Yewdall was the author of 'Atom Plotting Power' published in Your Computer 1983-06.
There are also a few Your Computer programs missing:

http://www.stardot.org.uk/forums/viewto ... les#p86730

Greetings
Kees

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:49 am
by oss003
Some more research .....

Disco Dance is combination of a program published in Acorn User nov.1984 by R.J.Adams named "Dancing Demo" and a program published in Acorn User apr.1984 named "Disco fever" by Tim Pierce .

PS there was a little problem with BNAME, the opened files weren't closed.
Another problem is the DIM command in subroutines which means that at one point there will be a memory shortage.
Will probably not being a problem because the program won't be used frequently .... :)
Here is an updated version for closing the files.
BNAME.zip
(965 Bytes) Downloaded 64 times
Greetings
Kees

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:04 pm
by hoglet
Note to self:
- Tetris already added
- still need to add Turtle Talk

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:56 am
by Festuceto
I'm sorry, I'm a newbie...how can I run this softwares with an emulator? I tried with Atomulator for DOS but the file format is not rcongnized by this emulator. I also change files extension in .TAP but they don't run...
Can you help me? Thanks.

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:16 am
by oss003
Hi festuceto,

Atomulator is for now the most extended and accurate emulator running in Windows, Linux, RPi and Apple OS.

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=9518&p=144987

Greetings
Kees

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:26 am
by oss003
PS I think you meant AtomEmulator written by Wouter Ras because Atomulator doesn't run in DOS.

Greetings
Kees

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:28 am
by Festuceto
oss003 wrote:PS I think you meant AtomEmulator written by Wouter Ras because Atomulator doesn't run in DOS.

Greetings
Kees

Yes, however I don't know how to run this files from the archive.

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:32 am
by Festuceto
The matter is that atomulator runs only .uef or . csw file but files in the Atom Software Archive are not uef or csw!

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:11 pm
by CMcDougall
if using Atomulator V1.27 (which is best), make sure under the settings tab at top >RamRom> both are ticked,
then unzip the Archive (1st page of this thread "AtomSoftwareArchive_20151119_V9.zip"), then copy them all into the MMC folder within the Atomulator127 folder.
then type */MENU & off you go!

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:48 pm
by Festuceto
CMcDougall wrote:if using Atomulator V1.27 (which is best), make sure under the settings tab at top >RamRom> both are ticked,
then unzip the Archive (1st page of this thread "AtomSoftwareArchive_20151119_V9.zip"), then copy them all into the MMC folder within the Atomulator127 folder.
then type */MENU & off you go!

Ok, so I have to type */MENU ?
I can't find the symbol *
it doesn't exist on emulator it seems...
:(

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:31 pm
by hoglet
Festuceto wrote: Ok, so I have to type */MENU ?
I can't find the symbol *
it doesn't exist on emulator it seems...
:(
Press whatever key on your keyboard is two keys to the right of L, with shift held down (on my keyboard this is @)

Shift-F12 also normally launched the menu.

If you still have problems, please post of screen shot of Atomulator.

Dave

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:35 pm
by Festuceto
hoglet wrote:
Festuceto wrote: Ok, so I have to type */MENU ?
I can't find the symbol *
it doesn't exist on emulator it seems...
:(
Press whatever key on your keyboard is two keys to the right of L, with shift held down (on my keyboard this is @)

Shift-F12 also normally launched the menu.

If you still have problems, please post of screen shot of Atomulator.

Dave

I tried shift-f12 to launch menu, but it says "ERROR - NOT FOUND"

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:37 pm
by hoglet
hoglet wrote: If you still have problems, please post of screen shot of Atomulator.
Screen shot / photo please?

Can you also post the results of *CAT

Thanks

Dave

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:55 pm
by Festuceto
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Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:25 pm
by hoglet
The ERROR 94 is a bit unexpected. Can you try:

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*HELP
then:

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*CAT
Also, a directory listing (from Windows) of your Atomulator/mmc directory would be helpful. I suspect you have somehow unpacked the archive into the wrong place.

Dave

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:39 pm
by Festuceto
I'm sorry, I didn't insert all archives files in the mmc directory. Now it works!
Thank you very much!!!

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Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:24 pm
by Multiwizard
Hi,

I was testing the 2nd joystick input of my ABM Atom... :D

It works ok with all the 2 player games except for WARLORDS... :?

To verify it I tried to play WARLORDS on my 2014 Atom,,, surprisingly the same problem... :shock:

Is the WARLORDS program ok? :?: (for 2 player action)


Greetings, Wim... :-)

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:38 pm
by oss003
Looks like Warlords is patched for only 1 joystick.

Here is the 2 player joystick version.
WARLOR.zip
(3.47 KiB) Downloaded 62 times
Greetings
Kees

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:48 pm
by Multiwizard
oss003 wrote:Looks like Warlords is patched for only 1 joystick.

Here is the 2 player joystick version.
WARLOR.zip
Greetings
Kees
Yes, it works... =D>

Thanks Kees... :-D

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:49 pm
by acory
I have now CATted a few of my old Atom tapes.
I suspect a lof of this software is already well known about.
First is a list from a tape labelled "Acornsoft". I have no idea where I got the software from.

STARGATE. 4-ROW. BREAKOUT. DOGFIGHT. LUNAR LANDER. DODGEMS. INVADERS. OTHELLO. ROBOTS. RAT TRAP.
APPLECOS.SRC. BREAKOUT.
DISASSEMBLER. 3D. TRANSFORM. PICTURES. REVOLVE. ENTOMB. LOAD WARNING. FACSIMILE. VDU-W. VDU-B. FAST COS. MUSIC.
ACORNUSER1. RTTY. MANHUNT. PCWOCT. PCWSEP. PCW2. PCWPAL.
ROADRACE. BREAKOUT. DRIVE. MOONLANDER. SPACE BATTLE. MISSILE DODGE. TALKBACK. MAZE. OTHELLO. HAMMURABI.
INVADERS. NEWTON.

--Gary

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:05 pm
by oss003
Hi Gary,

I have checked your titles with our lists and this is what I found:

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x = Already in the archive
! = Not in the archive so interesting to checkout

x STARGATE        Acornsoft Games 08
x 4-ROW           Acornsoft Games 04
x BREAKOUT        Acornsoft Games 10
x DOGFIGHT        Acornsoft Games 02
x LUNAR LANDER    Acornsoft Games 03
x DODGEMS         Acornsoft Games 06
x INVADERS        Acornsoft Games 05
x OTHELLO         Acornsoft Games 05 Probably REVERSI
x ROBOTS          Acornsoft Games 08
x RAT TRAP        Acornsoft Games 03

! APPLECOS.SRC    ???
! BREAKOUT        Several versions available so Acornsoft Games 10???
x DISASSEMBLER    Acornsoft Utility Pack 1
! 3D              ???
! TRANSFORM       ???
! PICTURES        ???
! REVOLVE         ???
! ENTOMB          Computer & Video Graphics magazine Vol 5 page 59
! LOAD WARNING    Could be Your Computer 1982-3 page 66
! FACSIMILE       ???
x VDU-W           Acornsoft Soft VDU
x VDU-B           Acornsoft Soft VDU
x FAST COS        Acornsoft Utility Pack 1
! MUSIC           ??? Could be Synthesizer?

! ACORNUSER1      ???
! RTTY            ???
! MANHUNT         ???
! PCWOCT          Personal Computer World Magazine October???
! PCWSEP          Personal Computer World Magazine September???
! PCW2            Personal Computer World Magazine???
! PCWPAL          Personal Computer World Magazine???

! ROADRACE        Could be Software Pro Software Road Race??? 
! BREAKOUT        Several versions available so ???
x DRIVE           The Atom Magic book
x MOONLANDER      The Atom Magic book 
x SPACE BATTLE    The Atom Magic book
! MISSILE DODGE   ???
x TALKBACK        The Atom Magic book
! MAZE            The Atom Magic book Probably 3D-MAZE
x OTHELLO         The Atom Magic book
x HAMMURABI       The Atom Magic book
! INVADERS        ???
! NEWTON          ???
Can you upload the files or record the tapes/files as WAV files so we can addd them to the archive?
Thanks.

Greetings
Kees

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:45 pm
by acory
Hi Kees,

Many thanks for taking the time to identify. There are other programs including my owm Atom Basic compiler, GAZDOS (8 inch floppy OS) and space invaders (which I want to finish off albeit 35 years late :shock: ). The PCW files are almost certainly type in programs from the magazine Personal Computer World from the 80's.

Tape loading using the FPGA solution is not working great (not the FPGAs fault, just the bad quality of the recordings) often giving an ERROR 6(?).

I intend to transfer to PC, as suggested by Hoglet, and use his Java code to extract.

I can send you the recordings once I get them onto the PC, errr... let me know your email address via private message(?).

--Gary

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:52 pm
by oss003
Hi Gary,

The easiest way is to record the files as WAV files.
The Atom emulator in MAME can read WAV files as if they are tapes but I think Hoglets Java code is the best way to go.

Please try to read them with Hoglets code first and if that's not working, I'll have a look at the WAV files.

Greetings
Kees

Re: Atom Software Archive

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:20 pm
by martinw
Thank you guys this really is ace!

Running all these games on a real Atom, you can't beat it for my money 8) =D>
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Martin