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Re: Today I received.....

Post by guddler » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:36 am

Pi-Tube direct level converter - no time to play until tonight though

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Post by paulv » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:58 pm

I'd like to say a big public thank you to Chris Jordan for sending me this pristine, never out of the poly's Music 1000 :-o
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Post by Lardo Boffin » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:08 am

So its not a Beeb version but at £4 I can’t grumble!

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Atom, issue 5
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
USA Model B
BBC Master, Datacentre + HDD, pi co-proc, econet, NULA

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Post by kieranhj » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:45 am

Slowest delivery ever! This has been sitting with a colleague on the west coast US since January until it could be hand-carried back to the UK. Bit manky and needs some love but a bargain in US$ compared to prices asked for European models in UK£.
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Post by danielj » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:50 am

Lovely! Is it a +?

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Post by Lardo Boffin » Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:27 am

A good day!

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Atom, issue 5
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
USA Model B
BBC Master, Datacentre + HDD, pi co-proc, econet, NULA

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Re: Today I received.....

Post by flaxcottage » Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:40 pm

Nice. =D> =D>

Those maths CAL programs look to be MIA. Can you archive and share? [-o< [-o<
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Post by Lardo Boffin » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:07 pm

flaxcottage wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:40 pm
Nice. =D> =D>

Those maths CAL programs look to be MIA. Can you archive and share? [-o< [-o<
I will if they work!
Atom, issue 5
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
USA Model B
BBC Master, Datacentre + HDD, pi co-proc, econet, NULA

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Re: Today I received.....

Post by markdryan » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:26 pm

a spectrum 128k toastrack. It actually arrived about 6 weeks ago but has been packed away until recently. It's oddly beautiful in it's own way, and some of the spectrum games are great. Really enjoying R-Type, Castlevania: Spectral Interlude and Rebelstar.
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Post by Lardo Boffin » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:00 pm

Rebel star is a classic. The RGB output via SCART is superb on these.
Atom, issue 5
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
USA Model B
BBC Master, Datacentre + HDD, pi co-proc, econet, NULA

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Post by chrisn » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:21 pm

paulv wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:58 pm
I'd like to say a big public thank you to Chris Jordan for sending me this pristine, never out of the poly's Music 1000 :-o

Music1000-1.jpg

Music1000-2.jpg

Music1000-3.jpg

Paul
That's great :D I'd like to also say thank you to Chris, he has also sent one to me, after I had the pleasure of meeting him at the last ABUG.

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Re: Today I received.....

Post by VincentVega » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:35 pm

A fairly unmolested Atom, in rather nice condition:

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From looking at the auction, it's an issue 4 board; it has a RAM expansion card - a Timedata MB163, whatever that does.

It came in enough cardboard and bubble-wrap to fill half a wheelie bin (they'd even opened it up to add some bubble wrap to protect the insides) as well as a rather quaint manual, a PSU and a small plastic bag:

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There's nothing to indicate what this is for. There's a 74LS138 IC, a resistor, a capacitor and a pin header.

I have no idea what I'm going to do with this thing, or even what it's capable of. It was a rather uninformed purchase and I have found myself wondering why I bought it since winning the auction (it's probably a bit excessive to say I feel "guilty" about buying it, but it's not far off). I'll be stripping it down over the weekend and giving it a good clean. The keyboard seems to be in a strange position - there's a gap of around 3-4mm at the top and no gap at the bottom; it also seems to be a bit low down and one of the fixing screws fell out of the bottom when I first took it out of the wrapping.

I'll probably also be posting a thread to the Atom sub-form asking lots of stupid questions, like "can I use a PSU that dates from this century?", "can I get colour out of it?", "is there a storage solution like the various MMC/Datacentre add-ons for the Beeb", "what do these weird keys do?" [*] and so on.

[*] "REPT"? A second up arrow key?
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Re: Today I received.....

Post by Lardo Boffin » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:01 pm

flaxcottage wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:40 pm
Nice. =D> =D>

Those maths CAL programs look to be MIA. Can you archive and share? [-o< [-o<
I think my disc drive may be eating them. I have tried two without success and don’t wish to cause any further damage. Anyone got good equipment to try them in? I’m happy to send them on.

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Atom, issue 5
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
USA Model B
BBC Master, Datacentre + HDD, pi co-proc, econet, NULA

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Post by Pernod » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:17 pm

Lardo Boffin wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:01 pm
I think my disc drive may be eating them. I have tried two without success and don’t wish to cause any further damage. Anyone got good equipment to try them in? I’m happy to send them on.

Lardo
What's their condition, did they look clean before you tried them?
I can UPURS them to ssd or fsd, if no-one else makes a better offer.
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BBC Model B: ATPL Sidewise, Acorn Speech, 2xWatford Floppy Drives, AMX Mouse, Viglen case, BeebZIF, etc.

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Post by Lardo Boffin » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:31 pm

Pernod wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:17 pm
Lardo Boffin wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:01 pm
I think my disc drive may be eating them. I have tried two without success and don’t wish to cause any further damage. Anyone got good equipment to try them in? I’m happy to send them on.

Lardo
What's their condition, did they look clean before you tried them?
I can UPURS them to ssd or fsd, if no-one else makes a better offer.
I mist admit I didn’t do a thorough check before trying two of them. After they both failed I stopped. The three I didn’t try look fine but the first two have radial lines on them. Not sure if they were there before or not.
Flax cottage has said he will have a go so will send them on to him first thanks and we will see where we go from there.
Lardo
Atom, issue 5
BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Acorn 6502 coproc
BBC model B 32k issue 7, turboMMC, Opus Challenger 3 512k, Pi 3 coproc
USA Model B
BBC Master, Datacentre + HDD, pi co-proc, econet, NULA

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Post by Pernod » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:40 pm

Lardo Boffin wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:31 pm
Flax cottage has said he will have a go so will send them on to him first thanks and we will see where we go from there.
Lardo
No problem, they'll be in good hands.
- Nigel

BBC Model B: ATPL Sidewise, Acorn Speech, 2xWatford Floppy Drives, AMX Mouse, Viglen case, BeebZIF, etc.

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Post by Multiwizard » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:14 pm

VincentVega wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:35 pm
A fairly unmolested Atom, in rather nice condition:
From looking at the auction, it's an issue 4 board; it has a RAM expansion card - a Timedata MB163, whatever that does.

It came in enough cardboard and bubble-wrap to fill half a wheelie bin (they'd even opened it up to add some bubble wrap to protect the insides) as well as a rather quaint manual, a PSU and a small plastic bag:

There's nothing to indicate what this is for. There's a 74LS138 IC, a resistor, a capacitor and a pin header.

I have no idea what I'm going to do with this thing, or even what it's capable of. It was a rather uninformed purchase and I have found myself wondering why I bought it since winning the auction (it's probably a bit excessive to say I feel "guilty" about buying it, but it's not far off). I'll be stripping it down over the weekend and giving it a good clean. The keyboard seems to be in a strange position - there's a gap of around 3-4mm at the top and no gap at the bottom; it also seems to be a bit low down and one of the fixing screws fell out of the bottom when I first took it out of the wrapping.

I'll probably also be posting a thread to the Atom sub-form asking lots of stupid questions, like "can I use a PSU that dates from this century?", "can I get colour out of it?", "is there a storage solution like the various MMC/Datacentre add-ons for the Beeb", "what do these weird keys do?" [*] and so on.

[*] "REPT"? A second up arrow key?
Oh, nice Atom... =D>

But there is something very unusual at this Atom... :shock:

The 0 button (see pic below), the 0 is a little smaller and it has a little white dot at the top right... :shock:

Anybody else has seen this before?? :shock:


Greetings, Wim... :-)
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Re: Today I received.....

Post by oss003 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:57 am

Great catch .....
Looks like the 0-keycap is from another computer...
Feel free to ask questions on the Atom forum.

Greetings
Kees

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flaxcottage wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:40 pm
Nice. =D> =D>

Those maths CAL programs look to be MIA. Can you archive and share? [-o< [-o<
Lardo Boffin wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:31 pm
I mist admit I didn’t do a thorough check before trying two of them. After they both failed I stopped. The three I didn’t try look fine but the first two have radial lines on them. Not sure if they were there before or not.
Flax cottage has said he will have a go so will send them on to him first thanks and we will see where we go from there.
Lardo
I've got

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Issue One Pack 1 Metric units of weight
Issue One Pack 2 Area
Issue One Pack 4 Postman

Issue Two Pack 4 Scale
which i think just leaves "Lines of Symmetry", i'll check the cases later just to be sure!

I think my copies were flaky.
Protection is by FWS, strange format on track 1, unformatted tracks when data ends, so Datacentre wouldn't manage them!

EDIT: Just checked the images I have, there are two variants
1 - tracks have a mix of 1 x 2048, 5 x 512 and 5 x 128 byte sectors per track or
2 - tracks always have 256 byte sectors, some deleted data, but not always 10 sectors per track

Further EDIT: Have checked the disk sleeves and none are cut open, so they must've imaged without any problems!
Also Issue One all say "For the BBC Model B" and I've got a copy of "Area" which says "NOT M/S128" - I'm not sure if the disk protection would be preventing the programs from loading, or some incompatibility is preventing them from running!
Issue Two titles (at least for the one I own) say "For the BBC Model B, B+ and Master 128"
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Post by sbadger » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:08 am

oss003 wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:57 am
Great catch .....
Looks like the 0-keycap is from another computer...
Feel free to ask questions on the Atom forum.

Greetings
Kees
Looks like Tipex to me :D :lol:
So many projects, so little time...

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Post by Elminster » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:25 pm

Couple more books for the collection, getting hard to get reasonbly priced books these days, a least ones I dont already have.
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Post by flaxcottage » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:48 pm

Elminster wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:25 pm
Couple more books for the collection, getting hard to get reasonbly priced books these days, a least ones I dont already have.
Yes, I've found that too. People are asking ridiculous prices for things these days. Nice collection, by the way. :D
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Post by Elminster » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:33 pm

flaxcottage wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:48 pm
Elminster wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:25 pm
Couple more books for the collection, getting hard to get reasonbly priced books these days, a least ones I dont already have.
Yes, I've found that too. People are asking ridiculous prices for things these days. Nice collection, by the way. :D
Thanks. I am sure there are some good bargains to be had if I had the time to wander around boot sales and second hand book stores. Unfortuntately I only have time to stick to watching the half dozen over priced online secondhand bookstores (and thats a struggle).

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Post by AndyMc1280 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:30 am

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Agreement to be "Given" a 33mhz Alpha A5000 +£250

In exchange for an Atari Falcon 030 @14 Mhz with Fpu and internal CF etc...

From a friend who is an atari guy, like I am an Arc nut.

He never uses the A5000 and I never use the Falcon so fair doos.
Neither of us wanted to sell out. Yes I could have held on to the falcon for years and years and put it on ebay.
BUT... an 8MB RO3.1 machine is nice too. It is currently 4MB but I have an upgrade from my previous A5000, plus I have network cards etc... so it can go on my network and talk to the R260 in the back room ROFL.

Pretty happy tbh. Both machines going to good new homes next month.
Yay!

Got the A5000 earlier than expected (last night).

Works with Del Power on, waiting for flying leads and battery box to do the necessary off board non rechargeable mod.

Naff:

Installed 8MB board but only running 4. Dont know whether it is just plugged in wrong or borked.

Dear God it is like a jet plane. :shock: Silent fan mod and CF card in its future....

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AndyMc1280 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:30 am
Dear God it is like a jet plane. :shock: Silent fan mod and CF card in its future....
Nine one Andy, they are fast aren't they! The 66mhz oscillator is socketed too, and they overclock nicely ;)

8mb boards are fiddly in the A5000, if anything isn't pushed in fully or is a bit loose, it'll drop back to 4mb (or just hang on start-up).

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Post by AndyMc1280 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:55 am

steve3000 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:18 am
AndyMc1280 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:30 am
Dear God it is like a jet plane. :shock: Silent fan mod and CF card in its future....
Nine one Andy, they are fast aren't they! The 66mhz oscillator is socketed too, and they overclock nicely ;)

8mb boards are fiddly in the A5000, if anything isn't pushed in fully or is a bit loose, it'll drop back to 4mb (or just hang on start-up).
Haven't had chance to use it in anger as there's no battery. My "jet plane" comment was regarding the noise of the Fan and HDD :lol: :mrgreen:

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Post by myelin » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:34 pm

A nice set of PRMs for RISC OS 2, to go with the RISC OS 3 PRMs living in my parents' attic back in New Zealand :)
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Post by steve3000 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:56 pm

AndyMc1280 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:55 am
Haven't had chance to use it in anger as there's no battery. My "jet plane" comment was regarding the noise of the Fan and HDD :lol: :mrgreen:
Lol! It is fast too though :lol:

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Post by AndyMc1280 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:51 pm

steve3000 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:56 pm
Lol! It is fast too though :lol:
True, it will soon be fast, quiet, batteried AND used lol. Battery arrived, fan on order. =D>

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Post by marcusjambler » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:44 pm

Finally got an Issue 2... It looks really well looked after too :D

I've just realised that this is the model A Issue 2 detailed here : http://chrisacorns.computinghistory.org ... BCAI2.html :shock:

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