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Which games from other platforms did you wish was on the BBC?

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:06 pm
by Commie_User
Super Mario's an easy one: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12020

Even we Commies yearned but had to make do with the Ocean Mario Bros licence, or the Giana Sisters hack for a pirate Super Mario. Still, we had Gryzor, which was NES Contra under a new name.

But there must have been titles the BBC owners really coveted in the actual heyday, such as Lemmings. (I'll have to check out Weenies, which appeared much later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Oocm4U_sbo )

Which games would you have killed for back in the 80s?

Re: Which games from other platforms did you wish was on the BBC?

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:35 pm
by lurkio
Prince of Persia.

:idea:

Re: Which games from other platforms did you wish was on the BBC?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:17 am
by jgharston
When I was teaching at Camp Beaumont we they had two suites of BBC Masters and two suites of Commodore 64s. The C64s seemed to be used mostly for games, the Masters for programming, office applications, and art.

However, there was one game on the C64s that I particulary noticed, and ever since have tried and failed to remember or find out what it was called. It was a multi-screen plan-view moving character thing (think Atic Atac) where you were some sort of tortoise-like reptile searching through caves for (I think) food and your eggs and hatchlings.

I wish I could remember what it was called.

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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:41 pm
by TopBanana
Gribblys Day Out ?

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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:42 pm
by FourthStone
I spent school holidays at an Aunts house, they had an Apple II clone (which I now own), there were many apple games I would dream about playing on the beeb and for which are part of a list that I would like to convert / clone / port one of these days.

Includes:
Conan Halls of Volta
Sammy Lightfoot
Crisis Mountain
Loderunner
Apple Cider Spider
Aztec
Hard Hat Mack

Probably a few more, hmmm I think I just realised that platform games from BITD were my favourite thing to play.

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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:47 pm
by FourthStone
jgharston wrote:However, there was one game on the C64s that I particulary noticed, and ever since have tried and failed to remember or find out what it was called. It was a multi-screen plan-view moving character thing (think Atic Atac) where you were some sort of tortoise-like reptile searching through caves for (I think) food and your eggs and hatchlings.

I wish I could remember what it was called.
Dino Eggs maybe? Description sounds spot on.

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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:59 am
by Pernod
FourthStone wrote:Loderunner
We already have that, by Software Projects.

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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:41 am
by flibble
Some sort of JPRG, a final fantasy or Zelda. A whole genre of games that's missing :)

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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:59 am
by Arcadian
FourthStone wrote:I spent school holidays at an Aunts house, they had an Apple II clone (which I now own), there were many apple games I would dream about playing on the beeb and for which are part of a list that I would like to convert / clone / port one of these days.
Do it!! :D

Just checked out the videos for all of those on Youtube, that Conan game looks really smart!!

Re: Which games from other platforms did you wish was on the BBC?

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:11 am
by jgharston
FourthStone wrote:
jgharston wrote:However, there was one game on the C64s that I particulary noticed, and ever since have tried and failed to remember or find out what it was called. It was a multi-screen plan-view moving character thing (think Atic Atac) where you were some sort of tortoise-like reptile searching through caves for (I think) food and your eggs and hatchlings.
I wish I could remember what it was called.
Dino Eggs maybe? Description sounds spot on.
No, that's side view, the game I remember was plan view, like Atic Atac:

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Re: Which games from other platforms did you wish was on the BBC?

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:41 am
by RobC
Top three for me were:
1. Bomb Jack [from playing the arcade version as I thought the home computer versions C64, Speccy etc.) weren't very good].
2. Ant Attack
3. SkoolDaze [both from playing on my friend's Speccy].

I'm still hopeful that I'll get round to finishing BeebJack one day and somewhere have a Beeb version of Ant Attack that allows you to walk around the city.

SkoolDaze has been ported to the Oric so maybe that could be ported across to the Beeb too :)

I've also been thinking about doing a version of Wonder Boy using my VideoNuLA board as it would be a good use of the extra colours and horizontal scrolling.

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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:15 am
by Andy1979
Used to love playing the Dizzy games (e.g. Treasure Island Dizzy) - seems these were available for most platforms, except the Beeb.

Re: Which games from other platforms did you wish was on the BBC?

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:15 pm
by Rich Talbot-Watkins
I always longed for a proper version of Gauntlet, but could never really see how it would look nice on a Beeb, even if it could run at a decent speed. Between jerky scrolling, hi res / no colours, or chunky res with colours, it always seemed like an impossible task.

That said, I've since imagined how you could probably do it quite nicely in MODE 2 with the smooth vertical scrolling hack, if you could find a fast way to render all those baddies!

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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:00 pm
by kieranhj
Paradroid.

Given that the original is C64 I'm quite tempted to have a go at porting it after I've finished Prince of Persia (and had a nice long sit down.) The author, Andrew Braybrook, is on Twitter - I might ping him to see if he has the original C64 sources anywhere...

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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:59 pm
by paulb
Rich Talbot-Watkins wrote:I always longed for a proper version of Gauntlet, but could never really see how it would look nice on a Beeb, even if it could run at a decent speed. Between jerky scrolling, hi res / no colours, or chunky res with colours, it always seemed like an impossible task.

That said, I've since imagined how you could probably do it quite nicely in MODE 2 with the smooth vertical scrolling hack, if you could find a fast way to render all those baddies!
I would also have mentioned Gauntlet back in the day, but now I realise that Dunjunz was a better game in many respects. Obviously, the graphics weren't as fancy as Gauntlet, but the gameplay was a lot more flexible and interesting than just slogging through wave after wave of monsters. Icarus was also pretty nice, but later levels were a bit stupid with regard to the number of baddies you had to deal with, and it all became rather linear as I seem to recall.

Gauntlet also wasn't very impressive on most home computer platforms (as far as YouTube comparisons show), meaning that it was probably yet another title that appealed because of its arcade reputation rather than it being a great game in its own right, especially as delivered on practically all of the 8-bit machines. Still, I'm not saying that it wasn't fun or wouldn't have been worth having.

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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:07 pm
by tricky
Gauntlet looses a lot for me single player, or in free play mode.
RichTW, on one of my floppy discs from BITD (can't read it now), I have a demo with lots of monsters, they are 8x8 with the screen in 12x12 blocks (mode 1, 4 pixel high character rows) self erasing, where horizontally moving monsters are in sync, vertical are in sync and stationary "idle" in their 8x8.
This allowed lda, sta, sta, sta etc with each type in an unrolled list, it allows lots to be drawn, but the screen does look a little bare.
Hardware scrolling was in 4x4 pixel blocks with the sprites in the unused bytes per row with multiple copies for animation.

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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:53 am
by crj
Ah, Dunjunz!

I guess I have my level designs. Somewhere...

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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:59 pm
by Kecske Bak
I would have loved a BBC Micro version of Gribbly's Day Out, and a BBC Micro version of Paradroid. I loved Andrew Braybrook's games on the C64. I love Ultimate games and would have also liked to have seen PSST and Trans-Am on the BBC B.

Re: Which games from other platforms did you wish was on the BBC?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:53 pm
by kieranhj
The talk of REVS on the "Most disappointing conversions..." thread made me yearn for Stunt Car Racer. It had an original release on C64 and was recently ported to 8-bit Atari.

Given that Geoff Crammond started on the BBC Micro, perhaps it's time for a conversion?!

EDIT: The 6502 source code for the Atari XL port exists but it's a single 30,000 line file :-k and all the comments are in Czech... #-o

Re: Which games from other platforms did you wish was on the BBC?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:32 pm
by Lardo Boffin
Bards Tale (and similar such as Wizardry). :D

I spent a lot of time playing them on my mate’s Apple II

Re: Which games from other platforms did you wish was on the BBC?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:08 pm
by trixster
kieranhj wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:53 pm
The talk of REVS on the "Most disappointing conversions..." thread made me yearn for Stunt Car Racer. It had an original release on C64 and was recently ported to 8-bit Atari.

Given that Geoff Crammond started on the BBC Micro, perhaps it's time for a conversion?!

EDIT: The 6502 source code for the Atari XL port exists but it's a single 30,000 line file :-k and all the comments are in Czech... #-o
If you port Stunt Car Racer to the Beeb I will write you into my Will.

Re: Which games from other platforms did you wish was on the BBC?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:05 pm
by tricky
I played it in the arcades (if it was the same game).
I don't remember it being mentioned at CA in the 14 years that I was there, but it was 10 years before my time. I can't see which versions were done there, but it was probably Tim Ansel.

Re: Which games from other platforms did you wish was on the BBC?

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:24 am
by kieranhj
trixster wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:08 pm
If you port Stunt Car Racer to the Beeb I will write you into my Will.
I did a genuine LOL on the train this morning reading that! :lol: