30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

want to contribute an update to the archive? post it here!
Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:33 pm

:D Post removed
Last edited by Michael Brown on Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:50 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
billcarr2005
Posts: 1191
Joined: Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:01 pm
Location: UK
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by billcarr2005 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:44 pm

Michael Brown wrote: After being re-mastered as a 400K image, here is Games Disc 105 (Special Edit).
Minus The Krystal Connection and Zap! (as these are still under copyright for now).
Michael Brown wrote:After being re-mastered as a 400K image, here is Games Disc 106 (Special Edit).
Minus Repton: The Lost Realms (as this is still under copyright for now).
[pedant]
Copyright for literary works, the category in which computer programs are included, lasts for "70 years from the end of the calendar year in which the last remaining author of the work dies."
So although the copyright might not be actively pursued, it's incorrect to assume that it has expired, for any BBC game! :P
[/pedant]

User avatar
leenew
Posts: 3579
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:27 pm
Location: Doncaster, Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by leenew » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:14 pm

Michael Brown wrote:Just checked Disc 041 on my real BBC and *DTRAP makes no difference to the graphics glitch in the Big KO. Strange though that both emulators have no problem with it. Could it be the datacentre causing the problem?

Mick.

PS Again, if someone could copy Disc 041 onto a floppy and load it on a real BBC with no datacentre and let me know the outcome then maybe this issue can be resolved.
Hi Mick,
I have played this from a disk into a beeb with no datacentre and it is fine.
Start the bout then hit escape and you get the high score table with "The BIG K.O." heading.
On the datacentre beeb it says "WINNER" but the text is chopped off and there is a blue background instead of black, and the screen is flickering...

It must be interfering with datacentre....

Lee.

User avatar
leenew
Posts: 3579
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:27 pm
Location: Doncaster, Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by leenew » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:35 pm

Michael Brown wrote:After checking through the games written by Shingo Sugiura, I spotted some minor spelling mistakes in Super Barricade on Disc 030.
I have corrected them and reposted that disc.

regards,
Mick.
Mick, what did you change?
"on which your life depends on." should read "on which your life depends."
Is the new version the text as it was originally printed in the listing?

Lee.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:39 am

Hi Lee,

The main things I changed on Super Barricade were the words inhabid to inhabit and radio active to radioactive in the loader program and the spelling on Sugiura in the main game and also moving the full stops next to the 1 and 2.
Also I removed the double gap between Super and Barricade to match the first file.

I have now amended the first file again as per your request to "life depends." and reposted the disc.
Hopefully this is now correct.

User avatar
leenew
Posts: 3579
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:27 pm
Location: Doncaster, Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by leenew » Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:36 pm

Ha ha thought I spotted that before! :D
Lee

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:32 pm

I randomly pick a game to play and sometimes spot something that we may have missed before. I am sure I am going to find others.

Mick.
Last edited by Michael Brown on Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:51 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
leenew
Posts: 3579
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:27 pm
Location: Doncaster, Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by leenew » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:42 pm

Hi Mick,
I was just looking at Ally Pally.
Did you know it is mainly a BASIC program?
*LOAD PALLY
?&3A91=&20
CALL&3A00

Then you can list it.
There are a few pokes around the &70 to &90 area that definitely conflict with datacentre workspace.
I think these could be moved somewhere else :D

**I think if you alter the lines 1490 to 1530 to point to somewhere like &900 rather than &80 that might be enough to fix it.
I can't check it on the datacentre beeb at the minute though :wink:
*EDIT no it won't - look at line 130 and line 390. The little sprite routine at &F55 and the HALL routine at &F00 will need a bit of alteration, but ithey're only a few bytes. We just need a "safe" place to alter all the &70 /&80 pokes to...

Lee.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:49 am

hi Lee,
I will take a look later this week at Alley Pally.
Hopefully a simple solution can be found to get this to work universally.

Mick.

PS If anyone else more experienced than me wants to take a look as well, then feel free!

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:20 pm

Created in December 2015... here is Games Disc 107.
Disc107.zip
(155.5 KiB) Downloaded 3 times
The disc is called Disc107.dsd so it can be loaded into a Datacentre on a real BBC without having to rename it.

The 18 games on this disc include...

J.R. from Software For All.
Fruity (Arcade 4 Pack) from Potter Programs.
Carnival from Retro Software.
Mecha-Worm from Acorn Computing (10.08).
Operation Safras from Shards Software.
Mountain Panic from Retro Software.
Aces High from Oasis Software.
Ultima from The Micro User (8.05).
jBiplane from Retro Software.
Space Kingdom from Cosma Software.
Asteroid Prospector (E) from The Electron User (1.07).
Hunchbach (Arcade 4 Pack) from Potter Programs.
Airlift from Bug-Byte.
Castle Raider from Retro Software.
Gomoko from Pro Software.
Towntest from Silverlind.
Yartsie (Arcade 4 Pack) from Potter Programs.
Hex! from The Micro User (11.13).

NOTE: Carnival allows you to save your score/position to disc.
Also, due to a minor graphics fault with BeebEm 4.14, Operation Safras does not work properly. However, it has been modified to detect BeebEm 4.14 and patch the problem. It works normally with B-em 2.2 and on a real BBC Micro. You can also save your score/position to disc.
Also, Mountain Panic requires both CTRL and BREAK pressing together to prevent the computer from locking.
Also, Asteroid Prospector is an Electron title that has been amended to work on a BBC Micro.
Lastly, Airlift has been amended to work correctly with OS 1.2.

EASTER EGGS: If you press ESCAPE during some of the loaders and instructions, then you can skip to loading the game... This only works on Castle Raider.

Almost every game on this disc has been re-mastered from original sources. In many cases, instructions from the inlays have also been included and grammar errors corrected.

All original filenames have been kept where possible, but some have been changed where they conflict with the limitations of the Disc Filing System. Copy protection routines have been removed.
This disc has also been checked for *KEY related issues and is OK.

Regards,
Mick.
Last edited by Michael Brown on Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:52 pm, edited 24 times in total.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:22 pm

:o Post removed
Last edited by Michael Brown on Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:53 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
leenew
Posts: 3579
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:27 pm
Location: Doncaster, Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by leenew » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:38 pm

Hi Mick,
What is supposed to be wrong with Ally Pally??
I have played it in beebem and on my datacentre beeb and can't now see anything wrong.
I had a feeling it was the "advertising boards" that were corrupted, but they look ok now :?

Lee.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:45 am

Hi Lee,
IIRC there was some corruption with the white text during the game when played via the datacentre. Not able to check via my actual Beeb at the moment, but I believe it was because the game stored code low down below &100 and the datacentre's commands overwrote it.

Mick.
Last edited by Michael Brown on Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:53 am, edited 1 time in total.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:20 pm

Created in March 2016... here is Games Disc 108.
Disc108.zip
(267.29 KiB) Downloaded 50 times
The disc is called Disc108.dsd so it can be loaded into a Datacentre on a real BBC without having to rename it.

The 18 games on this disc include...

Awari (Tape 5) from CSL Microdata.
Telephone Mania from Acorn Computing (10.11).
Mastermind (Games Pack One) from Logic Systems.
Yes Prime Minister from Mosaic Publishing Ltd.
Asteroid Lander from ASP Software.
Robo Swamp from Software For All.
Myriapod from Acorn Computing (10.08).
Kastle (Four Great Games Vol.3) (E) from Tynesoft.
Crazy-Cut (R H Comp) (AKA Danger Mower) from R H Software.
Battlezone Six (E) from Kansas City Systems.
Drop-In (AKA The Fall) from Acorn Computing (11.07).
3D-Maze (Games Of Deduction) from Bevan Technology.
The Three Crystals (Arcade 4 Pack) from Potter Programs.
William The Conquerorfrom Molimerx Limited.
Lunar Invasion (Triple Decker 3) (E) from Alternative.
Frogger from Retro Software.
Snowball from Soft Centre.
Digga (E) from The Electron User (2.11).

NOTE: Yes Prime Minister is the disc version and you can save your score/position to disc.
Also, Robo Swamp and The Three Crystals have been amended to work correctly with OS 1.2.
Also, Kastle, Battlezone Six, Lunar Invasion and Digga are Electron titles that have been amended to work on a BBC Micro. Kastle and Battlezone Six have also had some of their control keys changed in order to work with a QWERTY keyboard.
Lastly, Frogger requires both CTRL and BREAK pressing together to prevent the computer from locking. The author has also programmed the ESCAPE key to quit the game.

EASTER EGGS: If you press ESCAPE during some of the loaders and instructions, then you can skip to loading the game... This only works on William The Conqueror.

All original filenames have been kept where possible, but some have been changed where they conflict with the limitations of the Disc Filing System. Copy protection routines have been removed.
This disc has also been checked for *KEY related issues and is OK.

Regards,
Mick.
Last edited by Michael Brown on Thu May 24, 2018 1:00 pm, edited 24 times in total.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:18 am

Created in April 2016... here is Games Disc 109.
Disc109.zip
(148.51 KiB) Downloaded 90 times
The disc is called Disc109.dsd so it can be loaded into a Datacentre on a real BBC without having to rename it.

The 18 games on this disc include...

Fives from The Micro User (3.11).
Golden Shot by ???
Anti-Ballistic Missile Command from Alligata / Superior Systems.
Alien Fallout from Home Computer Weekly.
QuadCube from The Micro User (10.10).
Enigma! from Dealer Deals Ltd.
English Civil War from Red Shift Ltd.
Thruster from The Micro User (9.05).
Postman (AKA Plastered Postman) from ASP Software.
Dotty from Computer & Video Games.
Puffin (E) from The Electron User (2.06).
Flood-It! from Retro Software.
World War 1 from Computer & Video Games.
Claustrophobia from The Micro User (3.11).
Beebout (AKA Super Breakout) from Retro Software.
Grijpertje (AKA Catcher) by John v.d.Mast.
Gridder (E) from The Electron User (4.07).
Hi-Lo from Soft Centre.

NOTE: Golden Shot allows you to save your score/position to disc.
Also, Postman has been amended to work correctly with OS 1.2.
Also, Puffin and Gridder are Electron titles that have been amended to work on a BBC Micro.
Lastly, Grijpertje has had some of its control keys changed in order to work with a QWERTY keyboard.

EASTER EGGS: If you press ESCAPE during some of the loaders and instructions, then you can skip to loading the game... This only works on English Civil War.

All original filenames have been kept where possible, but some have been changed where they conflict with the limitations of the Disc Filing System. Copy protection routines have been removed.
This disc has also been checked for *KEY related issues and is OK.

Regards,
Mick.

PS. Thanks to all the forum members who helped to make this disc possible.
Last edited by Michael Brown on Thu May 24, 2018 12:09 pm, edited 16 times in total.

User avatar
leenew
Posts: 3579
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:27 pm
Location: Doncaster, Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by leenew » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:33 pm

Cheers Mick :D

Lee.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:12 am

:lol: Post removed
Last edited by Michael Brown on Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:44 am

:) Post removed
Last edited by Michael Brown on Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Wed May 25, 2016 4:19 pm

:D Post removed
Last edited by Michael Brown on Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Fri May 27, 2016 10:26 am

:D Post removed
Last edited by Michael Brown on Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
bakoulis
Posts: 255
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:45 pm
Location: Athens, Greece
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by bakoulis » Fri May 27, 2016 6:23 pm

Maybe now is the right time to put all discs in a beeb.mmb file with a pretty menu.
Must be split the dsd to ssd first, but maybe someone have the skills and the free time to do this job!
Also a version for datacentre is possible to made without split the dsd to ssd, like the original beeb.mmb.
Here is the datacentre (DCBeeb) version of the original beeb.mmb:
http://home.kindredintellect.com/beeb/Software/DCBeeb/

...by the way, thank you for your great effort at this amazing collection.
:D
2xElectron, 3xBBC B, BBC Master.
2xAcorn A310, A420/1, 2xA3000, 2xA3010, A3020, A4000, A5000.
2xRISC PC, Acorn Pocket Book, Acorn Pocket Book II.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Tue May 31, 2016 3:55 pm

:lol: Post removed
Last edited by Michael Brown on Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:13 am

:x Post removed
Last edited by Michael Brown on Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:33 am

:lol: Post removed
Last edited by Michael Brown on Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:11 am

Created in June 2016... here is Games Disc 110.
Disc110.zip
(153.85 KiB) Downloaded 90 times
The disc is called Disc110.dsd so it can be loaded into a Datacentre on a real BBC without having to rename it.

The 18 games on this disc include...

Tank (Cassette 5) from Model B Computing.
Dicer! from Soft Centre.
Percy's Panic (E) from The Electron User (2.06).
Thai Boxing (E) from Anco Software.
Timetrek from Micro Power.
Simon by Steven Flintham.
Plig from Electron User Group (63).
Ransom from Incentive Software.
Strategy I: Invasion from ASP Software.
Connect Four (AKA Make Four) from The Micro User (9.01).
Pucman (Unoriginal Games) by David McKeran.
Star Trek: The Game from Computer Telesoftware.
Howzat! (Triple Decker 4) from Alternative.
Viper from R H Software.
Astroblaster from Retro Software.
The Easter Egg Chase (E) from The Electron User (3.07).
Timerun by Anthony Bartram.
2048 by Eben Upton.

NOTE: Thai Boxing is an Electron title that has been modified by a fellow Forum member to work on a BBC Micro, but has to reset the disc drive (so requires *DTRAP on a real BBC Micro with a Datacentre fitted).
Also, Ransom is taken off Incentive Software's Graphic Adventure Creator disc, but due to a minor graphics fault with BeebEm 4.14, it does not work properly. However, it has been modified to detect BeebEm 4.14 and patch the problem the best it can. It works normally with B-em 2.2 and on a real BBC Micro. You can also save your score/position to disc.
Lastly, Astroblaster has the option to be enhanced if you have a spare bank of Sideways RAM available. It also requires both CTRL and BREAK pressing together to prevent the computer from locking.

EASTER EGGS: If you press ESCAPE during some of the loaders and instructions, then you can skip to loading the game... None on this disc.

All original filenames have been kept where possible, but some have been changed where they conflict with the limitations of the Disc Filing System. Copy protection routines have been removed.
This disc has also been checked for *KEY related issues and is OK.

Regards,
Mick.

PS. Thanks again to the forum members who helped to make this disc possible.
Last edited by Michael Brown on Thu May 24, 2018 12:15 pm, edited 20 times in total.

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:16 am

:lol: Post removed
Last edited by Michael Brown on Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
pau1ie
Posts: 513
Joined: Thu May 10, 2012 9:48 pm
Location: Bedford
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by pau1ie » Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:29 pm

Hi Mick

I can't get Lords of Time to work.

I suspect I am not the only one because I have not had an updated screenshot for it.

http://bbcmicro.co.uk/jsbeeb/?autoboot& ... fTimeD.ssd

Cheers

PaulH
I'm working on http://bbcmicro.co.uk

Michael Brown
Posts: 2004
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by Michael Brown » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:07 am

Hi Paul,

Lords Of Time requires *DTRAP to be on if playing on a real BBC as like a few other games (which are marked with a (D) in the games menu). It downloads the tune to somewhere like &900 to play it, then resets the disc drive with a *DISC, *DR.0, *DIR $ and then loads the main game.

hope this helps,

Mick.
Last edited by Michael Brown on Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
leenew
Posts: 3579
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:27 pm
Location: Doncaster, Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by leenew » Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:04 pm

We may have a better image of Lords of Time.
The tune was relocated to a safer location (By Lurkio) and so should work without DTRAP.
Let me find it....

Lee.

User avatar
lurkio
Posts: 1572
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:30 pm
Location: Doomawangara
Contact:

Re: 30th Anniversary BBC and Electron Collection

Post by lurkio » Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:42 pm

leenew wrote:We may have a better image of Lords of Time. The tune was relocated to a safer location (By Lurkio) and so should work without DTRAP. Let me find it....
Try this:
  • LoTfin.ssd.zip
    Lords Of Time .SSD disc image: added instructions, relocated tune code
    (29.1 KiB) Downloaded 100 times
:?:

UPDATE: Just checking that the disc image works in JSBeeb. It does: http://bbcmicro.co.uk/jsbeeb/?autoboot& ... LoTfin.ssd

:idea:
Last edited by lurkio on Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:13 am, edited 1 time in total.

Post Reply