ABUG Cambridge 28th - 30th June 2019 BOOKING THREAD - Now FULL

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Post by wolfgang » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:45 pm

I just arrived back home in Germany after my flight was delayed for about an hour.
I also want to thank everybody for the great weekend, especially the organizers who made it possible and Jason with his great team at The Centre for Computing History for letting us be there.
I wished I had had more time to talk with everybody for longer. It was a lot of fun and I thoroughly enjoyed myself. :D

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Post by jgharston » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:26 am

SimonSideburns wrote:
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Hi folks. I'd like to quickly say what a great weekend I have just had.
It was also great getting my hands on an original Chameleon pallette board. After discovering Mike Cook's subtle PCB tracking mistake (!) I was able to test that my updates to the PCHANGE palette manipulation utility to support the nULA and native VDU19 hadn't stopped the Chameleon code working. I then took the opportunity to rewrite and optimise the code the squash it to allow it to run on a BBC without having to drop PAGE, and added a few functionality tweeks.

Getting home and re-testing, and I haven't accidently killed the nULA support by updating the Chameleon support. :D

An interesting thing I hadn't noticed with the nULA before. Change palette entry 0 (black) to non-black, then go into MODE 7. Oooo!!!! Coloured border!

The Chameleon does this because it remaps physical colours, but the nULA remaps the logical colours fed through the video ULA. It seems that in non-teletext MODEs, the border is "colour -1" so to speak, but in teletext the border is colour 0, and is remappable as colour 0.

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Post by oPless » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:57 am

Nice meeting everyone that I talked to :-)

Sorry I wasn't more sociable, my missus wanted to sit down somewhere and tinker as she had a bad back.

Still I spotted that the museum had a couple of viewdata terminals! And a whole corner about teletext! :D

Though where the old Apricot PCs disappeared off to, I have no idea...
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Post by SpaceFlightOrange » Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:52 am

I popped in around Lunch time on Saturday, was good to say hi. Sorry I didn't speak to you all. Those I did speak to it was cool to see what you were up to. It was really cool to see the Chameleon board running (Thanks @SimonSideBurns).

for some reason, this was the only picture I took!!
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Was brilliant to finally see the museum! Living in Liverpool, I don't get down that way, ever.

The icing on the cake for me though was seeing Phoebe!!

The guys in the Museum kindly took me upstairs for a private viewing!! that place is fantastic!!
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I've never seen so many Beebs in such a small area!!
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Post by cmorley » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:15 pm

Great to see everyone again and meet some new faces.

Back to backing the C64, Amiga and Master versions of SCR was an eyeopener - the Master port clearly had the frame rate edge! Less brown too :?

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Post by gordonDrogon » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:44 pm

Just a ping for anyone wanting my details - I'm the Scottish chap from Devon with the little red board that's mostly bbc micro compatible (ish - see picture) I'll post a bit more about it and my ports of cc65 in other topics once I've recovered from the driving back to deepest, darkest Devon

Good to meet everyone there though - great to see so much enthusiasm still out there, as well as new hardware add-ons, software demos and so on.

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Post by MadeGray » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:53 pm

Cheers Gordon was a delight to see and meet you. Myself and Mike were the chaps yesterday who spent a lot of time talking about it! Oh and watching Chris bad apple amazing port down the tube.

Let us know if you get as far as a kit for Ruby as would be quite good to have a play.

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Post by andrewvideo » Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:50 pm

I would like to say big thank you for having me and thank you to everyone who help me with my little projects on my BBC Master.

I had a fantastic time and it’s was lovey meeting everyone. It was interesting to see other peoples projects,

Hope to see you guys on the next event.

Also I would like to thank you to Jonathan Giving me a lift down to Cambridge from sheffield.

Hope everyone has recovered from the heat in that room over the weekend.

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Post by markdryan » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:29 pm

Another great ABUG! I had a fantastic time, which I divided between chatting, snacking, working on my project and Alien Syndrome, in equal measure. A big thanks to the Museum and the organisers of the event.

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Post by anightin » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:29 pm

andrewvideo wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:50 pm
I would like to say big thank you for having me and thank you to everyone who help me with my little projects on my BBC Master.
Great meeting you too Andrew.

It was fun sitting with you and witnessing first hand your passion for all things retro -- even if it was using a Master to run Speccy games :roll: ( :) )

Whilst I think about it more, it was great meeting everyone there at the event and just hanging out.

Until the next one :D

Best

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Post by SimonSideburns » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:40 pm

anightin wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:29 pm
andrewvideo wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:50 pm
I would like to say big thank you for having me and thank you to everyone who help me with my little projects on my BBC Master.
Great meeting you too Andrew.

It was fun sitting with you and witnessing first hand your passion for all things retro -- even if it was using a Master to run Speccy games :roll: ( :) )

Whilst I think about it more, it was great meeting everyone there at the event and just hanging out.

Until the next one :D

Best

Andy
Watching Andrew playing a game I wrote in AGD on the Spectrum on his BBC Master was pretty impressive too:
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Thankfully that's one of the very few pictures I did manage to take during the weekend.
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Post by BigEd » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:38 am

And you've caught a Master, Electron, Atom, System and even a Risc PC, if I'm not mistaken! (Maybe an Archimedes?)

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Post by anightin » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:54 am

BigEd wrote:
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And you've caught a Master, Electron, Atom, System and even a Risc PC, if I'm not mistaken! (Maybe an Archimedes?)
Right first time, they are RiscPCs, and also not forgetting the System 1 8)

There are also at least 6 Arm CPUs too, one of them in view :D , not surprising as over 125,000,000,000 of them have shipped to date :o
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Post by oss003 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:01 am

@Simon, your game is als running on the Atom now ...... without copro ...... :wink:

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Post by andrewvideo » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:31 am

How did you do That? Did you recompile it to make it to work on the atom? So could be easy to inport it to the BBC?

I forgot what the guy called from Netherlands. I am wondering did you find out which computer the tapes belongs too.

On Saturday I copied paperboy from tape to disk and see if I could get to work and found out it’s was quite easy with Jonathan’s tape to disk program and made a !boot file.

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Post by oss003 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:36 am

It's an AGD game and AGD games can be converted to ASCII AGD gamefiles. This AGD file can be compiled for the Atom, it did however need some patches to draw the screen. It can be compiled for the BBC but also needs the patches. Will try this when I'm at home ....

For now it runs on a Spectrum, Dragon and Aton.

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Post by hoglet » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:48 am

Did anyone manage to make a wav copy of Cosmiad?

(It was logged as an Atom game, but I think it's more likely it's for the Sharp MK80Z)

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Post by jgharston » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:06 am

Has anybody else come down the the lurgie? Ever since I got back all my joints have been aching and I've been coughing and spluttering, so either you lot have been breathing over me, or I picked up something and breathed it all over you. :(

(crawls back to bed....)

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Post by Arcadian » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:05 am

hoglet wrote:
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Did anyone manage to make a wav copy of Cosmiad?

(It was logged as an Atom game, but I think it's more likely it's for the Sharp MK80Z)
Yes, I digitised it on my laptop, I'll share WAVs shortly!
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Post by wolfgang » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:40 am

jgharston wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:06 am
Has anybody else come down the the lurgie? Ever since I got back all my joints have been aching and I've been coughing and spluttering, so either you lot have been breathing over me, or I picked up something and breathed it all over you. :(

(crawls back to bed....)
Same here. It started last night. :(
I was blaming it on the flight, but now I have to re-think this theory. :-k

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Post by SimonSideburns » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:47 pm

oss003 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:01 am
@Simon, your game is als running on the Atom now ...... without copro ...... :wink:

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Wow, totally amazing. Really interesting. Can't wait for native BBC version.
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Post by SimonSideburns » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:20 pm

wolfgang wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:40 am
jgharston wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:06 am
Has anybody else come down the the lurgie? Ever since I got back all my joints have been aching and I've been coughing and spluttering, so either you lot have been breathing over me, or I picked up something and breathed it all over you. :(

(crawls back to bed....)
Same here. It started last night. :(
I was blaming it on the flight, but now I have to re-think this theory. :-k
Sounds like it could be a symptom of heat stroke.
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Post by 1024MAK » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:46 pm

SimonSideburns wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:20 pm
wolfgang wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:40 am
jgharston wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:06 am
Has anybody else come down the the lurgie? Ever since I got back all my joints have been aching and I've been coughing and spluttering, so either you lot have been breathing over me, or I picked up something and breathed it all over you. :(

(crawls back to bed....)
Same here. It started last night. :(
I was blaming it on the flight, but now I have to re-think this theory. :-k
Sounds like it could be a symptom of heat stroke.
Could it be that you caught a retro-computer virus? !!!

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Post by Elminster » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:42 pm

wolfgang wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:40 am
jgharston wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:06 am
Has anybody else come down the the lurgie? Ever since I got back all my joints have been aching and I've been coughing and spluttering, so either you lot have been breathing over me, or I picked up something and breathed it all over you. :(

(crawls back to bed....)
Same here. It started last night. :(
I was blaming it on the flight, but now I have to re-think this theory. :-k
Well, I did have a sore throat last night but seems to have gone this morning. As Mark suggests I will update my virus checker. :)

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Post by Arcadian » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:16 pm

Ok here are two recordings of the Cosmiad cassette for Hoglet (same side, just with different volumes used):
http://www.stairwaytohell.com/temporary ... volume.wav
http://www.stairwaytohell.com/temporary ... volume.wav

Seem to have picked up a bit of an (a)bug myself too, sore throat and mild cold ... !

Really enjoyed the event and meeting old and new peeps, thanks to Jason N and Mark for the [remote] organisation and to Jason F/CFCH staff for making the room and facilities available for us once again, roll on September!
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Post by hoglet » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:38 pm

Arcadian wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:16 pm
Ok here are two recordings of the Cosmiad cassette for Hoglet (same side, just with different volumes used):
http://www.stairwaytohell.com/temporary ... volume.wav
http://www.stairwaytohell.com/temporary ... volume.wav
Thanks for uploading these. It's definitely not an Atom tape - it's 1200 baud without any obvious block structure.

I suspect it's for the Sharp MZ80-A:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFtolYBdNIE

So we can cross this one off the Atom list.

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Post by tricky » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:28 pm

Did anyone manage to get copies of the two manuals for Computer Concept's Speech System, or at least the one we don't have (if it exists)?
Also, there seem to have been quite a few new faces, I'm so sorry I missed it.
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