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Re: Educational Archive not in STH

Post by CMcDougall » Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:41 pm

Yrrah2 wrote:others who have posted there titles here too, can I add these to the list as well?
looks like you already have! 8) (my ASK -Children From Space, it's my tape rip, and my bit baccy stuck to scanner :lol: )
copy away, as better 'out there' than lost for eternity :(
good work folks =D>
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Post by Yrrah2 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:27 pm

looks like you already have! 8)
Sorry was enthusiastic. But when it's not appreciated I remove it........

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Post by ivor_the_injun » Sun May 11, 2014 10:23 pm

Massively unexciting, but I notice that the Ivan Berg/Acornsoft Revise GCE/GCSE English isn't in the archive. I'm looking at a copy here.

Also, the Supermarket title that I've just started a thread on in the Games subforum may end up being more appropriate here. Anyone familiar with it?

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Re: Educational Archive not in STH

Post by flaxcottage » Sun May 11, 2014 10:38 pm

No, I haven't got that title. Any chance you can submit it? [-o<
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Re: Educational Archive not in STH

Post by Yrrah2 » Mon May 12, 2014 8:36 am

Hi All,

Got a nice update on the Database Educational Software.
Fun School 3, including manual (OCR and Scanned)
And some other titles from Database.

See my site. http://www.mybbcmaster.nl

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Post by flaxcottage » Mon May 12, 2014 9:41 am

Fancy, gets his own website wrong! :twisted: :oops: :lol:

Try this : http://www.mybbcmaster.nl/

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Post by flaxcottage » Mon May 12, 2014 9:42 am

Wow that edit was quick!! :shock: :shock:
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Post by flaxcottage » Mon May 12, 2014 9:47 am

Great scan of the Fun School 3 manual, thanks. =D>
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Post by Yrrah2 » Mon May 12, 2014 10:15 pm

flaxcottage wrote:Wow that edit was quick!! :shock: :shock:
Haha, I'm blazing fast (erm... sometimes.....)
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Post by Yrrah2 » Mon May 26, 2014 6:26 pm

Got a nice Hill MacGibbon title added to the list.
It's a 3 game pack. Including manual, scans and OCR.
The manual file is quite big, this because of the colour layout on one of the games.

Originally I got this title on tape. So I created the 3 tape images, work good with the beeb, but not all on the Master.
So I created a working disc version for the master including startup, menu and title 8)
Have a look at my site

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Post by flaxcottage » Mon May 26, 2014 8:31 pm

Nice one, thanks. =D>
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Post by leenew » Thu May 29, 2014 7:55 pm

Hi John,
I have come across "French" - "Six French Games" by AVP Computing Educational Software. (1 x cassette plus manual and case)

plus

"Keyword" by Swift Software - "The dynamic word finder for home and business use"

(1 x 80 track disk plus leaflet)

Also (and I wouldn't normally mention these as I am sure you will have them, but they all have the box and manual so may need scanning??)

Acornsoft/ASK Number Puzzler, Table Adventures, Hide & Seek,
Acornsoft Education Tree Of Knowledge
Acornsoft Home study Linkword Italian and Linkword Spanish

All on cassette.

And finally....

Giant Killer from Topologika / Peter Killworth
On disk with manual, instructions, function keystrip

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Post by Yrrah2 » Thu May 29, 2014 8:38 pm

=D> =D> =D> =D> to LEE!!!!

That is all nice!
Don't know about John, but add them!

I have "ASK Number Puzzler"
So don't need to scan the manuals for that one. I have the "Best 4 Maths" that includes Number Puzzler.
But can you make euf files from the cassettes? Mine is one disk.

May I ask (if John is ok, otherwise he can smack me in the face :? ) to scan it at 300dpi? (and low compression on the images)
Then I can do some OCR on the manuals later.

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Post by leenew » Thu May 29, 2014 9:08 pm

oops!
Hi Koen :D
That previous message was meant to be a P.M. to John, hence the "Hi John"!!

I am not very good with uef's etc. so I normally leave that up to him :D

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Post by rharper » Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:31 pm

I have some educational disks that came with a beeb.
1. University of Birmingham, Research Centre for the Education of the Visually Handicapped.
13x40T disks. Initial disk+Which Word,Which One, Which Character, Which Block, Match Block, Match Word, etc.
2. SMDP software, 24 of 25 40T disks (missing No.4)
All have titles SMDPnov84AD or with different last 2 characters.
1-Art & Design, 2-Bank, 3-Bike Insurance, etc. ...25-Weather
These are educational simulations.
3. Supermarket by COIC software 1984.
I think it's a simulation of managing a supermarket.

They are for the Beeb but I tried one on an Electron and it worked OK.
Are these of any use.
I will post at my expense to anyone who would find them useful.

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Post by billcarr2005 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:51 pm

I'd be happy to image them all :)

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Post by flaxcottage » Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:22 pm

Hi all,

All the titles mentioned are not yet in the archive. Until mid-June I am tied up with marking exam papers but after then I am free to copy and add to the archive.

I shall not in the least be offended if anyone else wants to copy the programs and scan the manuals, in fact I'd welcome it. At the moment I have a good six months backlog. I do not have the facilities to make UEF files, I am afraid, so help there would be greatly appreciated.

All I ask is that, if anyone makes copies of educational software, they publish it on the forum or PM me a copy for the archive.

@Koen - 300dpi it is :D

@rharper - yes please. =D> =D>

@Lee - yes please =D> =D>
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Post by CMcDougall » Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:51 pm

flaxcottage wrote:I do not have the facilities to make UEF files, I am afraid, so help there would be greatly appreciated
John, as I Love :mrgreen: fixing old tapes \:D/ , please throw them at me 8) (But, don't tell the wife..... :lol: )
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Post by flaxcottage » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:02 pm

CMcDougall wrote:
flaxcottage wrote:I do not have the facilities to make UEF files, I am afraid, so help there would be greatly appreciated
John, as I Love :mrgreen: fixing old tapes \:D/ , please throw them at me 8) (But, don't tell the wife..... :lol: )
Will do Col, thanks. I'll PM you when I have a batch. Be around mid-June. Got some Electron stuff too.
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Post by billcarr2005 » Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:20 pm

Received the disks from rharper today - thanks Ray :) .
Only one of them made my disk drive squeal :lol:
Thanks to the speed of the UPURS cable & software, transferring them was a piece of cake =D>
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Post by flaxcottage » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:23 pm

That's a lot of work there. :shock:

REPEAT
PRINT "I must get around to cataloguing what we've got"
UNTIL IGetAroundToDoingIt

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Post by CMcDougall » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:54 pm

Got these today from Lee, they were a right pain, only recorded once on one side, but :D
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happy learning! 8)
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Post by duikkie » Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:23 pm

did we not agree there will not be a file anymore loading at &E00 #-o [-X ??

those files must have a facelift :shock: :lol:

when i finsch the circus game , i will look at other e00 loading files :mrgreen:

hopefuly not that pighaeded as circusgame !!!

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Post by flaxcottage » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:49 am

Nice work, Col. :D

Lee is a jolly nice chappie, isn't he? . He sent me a parcel today and inside it was this.
The Holy Grail.jpg
Now why should I be so excited about this plain-looking floppy disk. :?:
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Post by leenew » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:59 am

I don't know John....
Pray tell...
Why are you so excited about a plain looking floppy disc?? :-k

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Post by flaxcottage » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:16 pm

That plain looking disc as you call it has a number of Biology programs published by Longmans. I have been looking for these for years. =D>

They were originally published for the Commodore PET, the Research Machines 380Z and, I believe, the North Star Horizon. Not unusually for the time the manuals actually had the code listing.

I remember converting MONOHYB for my original UK101, they are that old.

Later, when the BBC Micro came out, Longmans released them for that. I contacted Longmans a year or so ago to see if they had any archives but they had long since disappeared. Not only that but the original team has either retired or been relocated to the USA.

The Computer History Museum in Cambridge allegedly has some of these titles including manauals but they have not been answering my emails. :(

That is why I am so 'over the moon'. My first job tonight will be to put them on an SSD.

Cheers, Lee. =D> =D> =D>
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Post by leenew » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:41 pm

You're welcome :D
I have had those discs for months and never had time to look at what was on them, so I am glad I didn't give 'em away with a beeb bundle.
I have been putting everything to one side that looked remotely educational so I hope I haven't given anything important away :oops:
I am just about cleared out now.
I am going to list a few things tomorrow then it's just beebs left, so no more exciting finds for a while unfortunately....

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Post by flaxcottage » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:25 pm

One that has been hard to find. :?

The Longman Micro Software Warwick Science Simulations Biology Pack 1.

In its day (1983) this was cutting edge educational software. The software that Lee found included a disc containing these programs. These must have been from a teacher's personal collection as there was no documentation.

The software on the disc was mixed with a lot of other bits and pieces and the menu had been 'hacked'. I think I have restored it to its original state and made a reasonably faithful copy of the disc.
WSSBP1screen.jpg
The main menu screen
The package came with a Teacher's Guide. Below is the front cover (courtesy The Computing History Museum).
Biology Pack 1 cover.jpg
If anyone has this manual, I should be grateful of a scan to complete my collection.

Here is the software.
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Post by richardtoohey » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:36 am

duikkie wrote:did we not agree there will not be a file anymore loading at &E00 #-o [-X ??
There's also the desire to preserve the original stuff as it was BITD.

So "we" should start with the original as is it was, and then it can be converted.

Or something like that. :D

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Post by flaxcottage » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:25 am

richardtoohey wrote:
duikkie wrote:did we not agree there will not be a file anymore loading at &E00 #-o [-X ??
There's also the desire to preserve the original stuff as it was BITD.

So "we" should start with the original as is it was, and then it can be converted.

Or something like that. :D
This is the best of both worlds, I think. :D

I have just received the tapes in question to archive, from a "Shadow in a Valley of Scotland", thank you very much. :lol: We have the .uef copies which are as close to the original as possible. I shall now try to put them on .SSD images and .ADL images so that they can be widely enjoyed.

For those who, for some reason, do not like ADFS, I create ADFS images because these are usually Econet compatible and since I now own one I think "why not?". :D
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