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ROM archive?

Post by Lion » Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:32 pm

Is there a go-to place for BBC Micro/Master ROM images? I'm particularly interested in office-style software, word processors, databases, things like that.

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Post by Pernod » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:46 am

The main online ROM archives are:
http://bbc.nvg.org/rom/
https://acorn.huininga.nl/pub/roms/

If there's something specific you're looking for then let me know. I document known good dumps in the MAME software lists, see https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/ma ... bc_rom.xml.
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Post by Lion » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:33 am

Thanks for the help. I also discovered there's quite a comprehensive set in the TOSEC collection.

Should tide me over for a while!

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Post by Pernod » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:41 am

Lion wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:33 am
Thanks for the help. I also discovered there's quite a comprehensive set in the TOSEC collection.
TOSEC contains the majority of what you could find online a number of years ago, without any verification. There are a large number of bad dumps and hacks in that collection.
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Post by Lion » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:55 am

Oh well thank you for the warning!

(Also, thanks for your work with MAME. The BBC Micro emulation in recent versions is hugely improved.)

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Post by fuzzel » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:35 pm

Very useful thread this. I've had a quick browse and noticed my favourite ROM from yesteryear, Ice-Box.I wonder if anyone's got a manual for this? Confession time, I used it back in the day to effectively save state so I could save my position on Repton 2, Citadel, Ravenskull etc. Not sure I could've completed them without it. As I recall it saved 3 files which collectively covered all ram &0000 to &7FFF. I think one of the files was the screen memory. Not so essential of course now I've got Beebem.

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Re: ROM archive?

Post by Pernod » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:20 pm

fuzzel wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:35 pm
I've had a quick browse and noticed my favourite ROM from yesteryear, Ice-Box.I wonder if anyone's got a manual for this?
Never seen a manual. There are a few different ROM images of Ice-Box out there, and I've not been able to get any of them to do anything useful in emulation. Was it sold as a ROM, or on floppy to use in sideways RAM?
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Re: ROM archive?

Post by lurkio » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:35 pm

Pernod wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:20 pm
fuzzel wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:35 pm
my favourite ROM from yesteryear, Ice-Box.I wonder if anyone's got a manual for this?
Never seen a manual. There are a few different ROM images of Ice-Box out there, and I've not been able to get any of them to do anything useful in emulation.
I wonder if the Icebox ROM needs a hardware switch to activate it?:
:?:

EDIT: Or maybe it just needed SWRAM?:

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Post by billcarr2005 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:26 am

Pernod wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:20 pm

Never seen a manual. There are a few different ROM images of Ice-Box out there, and I've not been able to get any of them to do anything useful in emulation. Was it sold as a ROM, or on floppy to use in sideways RAM?
I've got an original floppy of ICE-BOX 1.40 somewhere, loads into sideways RAM. I've just tested the SSD in b2 and have managed to successfully save the state from the BASIC prompt. I'll see if I can find the packaging :?

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Post by fuzzel » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:30 pm

I've loaded up Ice-Box 1.00 into one of the free Rom Configuration slots in Beebem. I've then set it to "Mark Writeable". This is important, it appears to use its own SW Ram (cleverly) to store data, probably zero page, registers, etc..

I've then *ASSIGNed a filename but when I try to freeze activity with Control-@ I get a little beep which sounds familiar but then I should be able to press "Copy" and it should save the memory ("Delete" restores the saved state). However, nothing happens.

Can you help Bill?

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