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Post by Lardo Boffin » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:27 pm

These go for ridiculous amounts of money. Specially the ultra rare unmodified ones.
Almost all of them (the relatively few that were sold as they were lol price back then) were upgraded shortly after purchase.
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Post by Commie_User » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:45 pm

Still, a fool and his money...

I wouldn't even pay £500 for an old computer if it served no practical use. I almost bought a refurb PET and disk drive at £350 for no more than faffing about but to pay that much for a Lisa, you would have to have lost all sense of perspective.

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Post by crj » Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:35 pm

It does make sense that rarity is factored into the price, along with historical importance, aesthetics, usefulness, etc.

In Acorn-land, an A500 would obviously be more valuable than an A440, for example, even though the A440 is probably the more useful computer and the better looking.

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Post by Commie_User » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:12 am

I wonder at the demographic makeup of those spending Lisa money. Museum proprietors or Youtube stars perhaps? Or someone bored and rich who wants an expansive collection just a little different from Harley Davidsons or electric guitars?

Either way, I hope these old machines are maintained and kept in good homes. Before many more years are out, it will probably take the rich to keep a good size of old computers in showroom condition.

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Post by algenon_iii » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:13 pm

Commie_User wrote:I wonder at the demographic makeup of those spending Lisa money. Museum proprietors or Youtube stars perhaps? Or someone bored and rich who wants an expansive collection just a little different from Harley Davidsons or electric guitars?

Either way, I hope these old machines are maintained and kept in good homes. Before many more years are out, it will probably take the rich to keep a good size of old computers in showroom condition.
There's also those who watch these YouTube videos and have to have whatever it was that was featured.

In the past I've been pondering getting some particular retro electronic kit (typically late 80's or 90's stuff that I couldn't afford back then) only for it to be featured on a popular YouTube channel and the price just shoots up. It can take best part of a year for the prices to get back to normal. #-o

Old micro computers will be the antiques of the future, some of them are getting close to being half-way to the 100 years old definition of what an antique is.

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Post by Lardo Boffin » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:29 pm

I guess someone has been watching youtube then!

£500!

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBC-Master-wit ... 3128946412
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Post by Commie_User » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:44 pm

Phwoar!

Though I don't even mean that, more the OMG-level. Did you see how much that Lisa bid ended at?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-APPLE-L ... 0009.m1982

Well I think you'd better sit down! :shock: :lol:


So in relation to that, I'd hardly say it's big syringe time for those of us paying £300 tops for a refurbed BBC B.

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Post by crj » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:16 pm

The problem with the Lisa 1 is:
  • As the forerunner to the Mac, it's iconic as a machine with an early decktop OS
  • As an Apple, it's iconic as an early Apple machine
  • It's extremely rare. Maybe 10,000 were made, compared with 1,500,000 model Bs
  • There are a lot more Apple users than Acorn users, so it's better known
  • The demographic of Apple users, and especially of Apple employees, is very wealthy
I wouldn't pay that price, but I didn't need to sit down before reading it.

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Post by Commie_User » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:23 pm

I daresay we're sat down already. I understand the Lisa is indeed very rare and very time consuming to restore. Paying out that kind of lolly demanded a stellar reason on the buyer's side. And there must have been something more to it than what the likes of the 8-Bit Guy paid for to get his. He says he normally pays well under a grand for whatever. (I think it was him.)

I hope it is a museum or Youtube star who's getting it. It's nice to see someone dish up what we'd otherwise never see. Law of averages demands that virtually nothing of what we own and enjoy now will survive to be tomorrow's archaeology.

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Post by crj » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:31 pm

There are more than 1.4 million individuals in the USA with a net worth in excess of $5m.

How many Lisa 1s still exist, and how many of the multi-millionaires want one?

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Post by danielj » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:46 pm

Commie_User wrote: I hope it is a museum or Youtube star who's getting it. It's nice to see someone dish up what we'd otherwise never see. Law of averages demands that virtually nothing of what we own and enjoy now will survive to be tomorrow's archaeology.
One who lobs it out of a high window whilst whooping incoherently :D?

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Post by JudgeBeeb » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:17 pm

There is so much wonder in the universe; why should you want to imagine that there is more?

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Post by Multiwizard » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:20 pm

Seller: macman4623

Shouldn't it be: madman4623? :lol:


Greetings, Wim... :-)

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Post by JudgeBeeb » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:22 pm

Multiwizard wrote:
Seller: macman4623

Shouldn't it be: madman4623? :lol:


Greetings, Wim... :-)
Genuine AdLib cards are now routinely into LOLPRICE territory.

I saw one sell very recently for over £500.
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Post by VincentVega » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:00 pm

32-bit Elite, a snip at a mere £199.99:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Elite-Gold-E ... SwLnBarp85

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Post by vanekp » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:14 pm

wow and a nice round number of bids for it as well :)

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Post by Commie_User » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:05 pm

Does anyone feel Elite's been rather over-hyped since the 80s?

(Same thing with Giana Sisters on our side, but at least Elite's a kind-of Sgt Pepper's of the era.)

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Post by crj » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:54 pm

I think Elite remains the computer game I've spent longest playing. That's not nothing.

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Post by Commie_User » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:52 pm

Indeed it isn't. But prices can be stupid now. On my side again, just look at this nonsense: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THE-GREAT-GI ... SwH-daDD8q

And when other games go for such prices today, you may as well just download the disk images and keep the Ebay box photos: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Venus-The-Fl ... 0005.m1851



My school had a copy of Elite and, when they let me bring in my Electron tape deck, I spent some good time blasting opponents, cruising around and doing a few deals. Bit like Grand Theft Auto, then.

Wish, looking back, I'd asked to buy that, plus the copy of Yes Prime Minister they had because literally nobody else was interested. A huge achievement for such a game crushed into the BBC's resources as I just find Elite too big today.

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Post by Lardo Boffin » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:45 pm

BBC model B 32k issue 4, 16k sideways RAM, Watford 12 ROM board, Viglen twin 40/80 5.25" discs, Acorn 6502 coproc
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Re: LOLPRICE

Post by Slo » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:43 pm

That's a bit of a mark up it says £10.95 on the back :-k

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Post by geraldholdsworth » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:40 am

Should take a gander at his other items - prices are all over the place. Although 80 quid, on a buy it now, for a BBC B with 1770 DFS upgrade and a couple of manuals, don't seem too bad. He says he hasn't tested it extensively, but also says it works on UHF and RGB out. Looks quite tidy too.
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Post by flaxcottage » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:15 pm

Quite silly! :lol: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acorn-Archim ... SwFm5a3PJg

The disc will be useless without the massive documentation to back it up.

I remember this title BITD - late eighties or early nineties I think. It was issued to all secondary schools in Nottinghamshire FOC. It was a problem-solving exercise which used one computer with a group of students. The group had to provide aid to a disaster area if I remember rightly.

The package will be quite rare since most schools accepted it and filed it. When PCs took over education, these packages will have been thrown away to recover the storage space on a shelf. :lol:

The disc could do with archiving but at 1% of the price.
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Post by geraldholdsworth » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:30 pm

flaxcottage wrote:The disc could do with archiving but at 1% of the price.
The seller appears to be, or used to be, a denizen of these forums. Maybe if he sees this post, he might oblige and archive it before selling it.
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Post by billcarr2005 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:01 am

It does appear to be in mint condition, but still...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132597496097

£499.99 :o

Surely not so rare either?

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Post by danielj » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:07 am

I don't think Acornsoft sealed any of their boxes, did they?

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Post by Elminster » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:11 am

danielj wrote:I don't think Acornsoft sealed any of their boxes, did they?

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I cant remember now, but even if they did surely it would have been shrink wrapped? I dont ever remember buying games for Acorn, Speccy or Amiga in sealed bags like that.

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Post by danielj » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:20 am

99.9% sure they weren't shrink wrapped.

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Post by Elminster » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:33 am

danielj wrote:99.9% sure they weren't shrink wrapped.

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Not quite what I meant. I meant if games were in plastic they were usually shrink wrapped. Not that all games were shrink wrapped.

I was neither agreeing or disagreeing that Elite came in plastic, just that if it did it probably wouldnt have been a bag.
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Post by hoglet » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:39 am

This chap has been shifting quite a lot of stuff recently, most at reasonable to very good prices.

There was even a Matchbox Co Pro (from the first batch I think):
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acorn-BBC-Mi ... 2515277385
Acorn BBC Micro Matchbox sized 6502 / Z80 / 6809 BBC Micro Co Pro FPGA

Rare FPGA BBC Micro Co-Pro , with the best of intention this is beyond me to fathom . All documentation is only online and a reasonable Beeb knowledge is required to get the best out of it . I believe this is also for the BBC Master but please check online documentation to be sure .
So possibly a member here?

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