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Printing on Thingiverse

Post by Elminster » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:18 pm

I was going to print off some gotek cases and possibly a few other bits on Thingiverse (not allowed to buy a 3d printer at the moment), but there seems to be a number of different printing apps/companies available. Has anyone used any of them? Not sure which to pick.

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by scruss » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:44 am

… and you don't have any access to friends, library, makerspace, etc. who might have a 3D printer?

The print services available from Thingiverse (at least in Canada, which can be its own very special backwater for services sometimes) are pretty much limited to higher-end materials. Sure, you can order prints in PLA from Shapeways, but the markup is ridiculous. If you tot up the cost of a few prints via Thingiverse, it's not many before you come to the cost of a basic 3D printer. I know you say you're not allowed one, but if it makes sound financial sense …

I'd offer to print things for you, but the shipping from here is horrible.

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by Elminster » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:29 am

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… and you don't have any access to friends, library, makerspace, etc. who might have a 3D printer?
That isn't really the issue. I just want to be able to order stuff online and it turns up. Like PCB boards. It a good 45 min drive to the nearest Makerspace. Only printers in our libraries print paper, not sure if other UK libraries do this but not something our county council offers.
The print services available from Thingiverse (at least in Canada, which can be its own very special backwater for services sometimes) are pretty much limited to higher-end materials. Sure, you can order prints in PLA from Shapeways, but the markup is ridiculous. If you tot up the cost of a few prints via Thingiverse, it's not many before you come to the cost of a basic 3D printer. I know you say you're not allowed one, but if it makes sound financial sense …

I'd offer to print things for you, but the shipping from here is horrible.
Unfortunately, even if someone gave me a printer I don't have space for it. They aren't small things you can just put in the drawer, or stack on or under other things.

Print a Thing, Ninja Prototype and Treatstock are the services available in the UK on Thingiverse. If none are no good then I will just skip the idea.

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by davidb » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:51 am

paulb used Shapeways when prototyping a Plus 1 cartridge case and the quality was reasonable. The cartridge I ordered from them was also OK.

This was some time ago. There may be more vendors that serve the UK now, though a quick search only really uncovered ones that are maybe serving "professional" clients rather than "consumers".

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by tingo » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:42 pm

Elminster wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:29 am
That isn't really the issue. I just want to be able to order stuff online and it turns up. Like PCB boards. It a good 45 min drive to the nearest Makerspace. Only printers in our libraries print paper, not sure if other UK libraries do this but not something our county council offers.
FWIW, my own experience with printing things from Thingiverse (I'm using the 3D printers at my local makerspace) is that it is very different from ordering a PCB. If I make a PCB, order it made and when I get it there is a fault on it - then it's my fault and I can fix it and order a new board - I can live with that.

Printing someone else's model from Thingiverse is different: the current state of 3D printing (at least for consumers) makes the process much more like prototyping: print one, find out that it doesn't fit correctly, then you need to adjust it and print a new one and try again.
And this is where problems can start to creep up on you:
- some makers only put the .STL files on Thingiverse, not the 3D model itself. STL files can be edited, but adjusting model parameters in those is far from easy.
- the 3D model is provided but it was made with a program you don't know how to use, one you don't have and which costs serious money, or one where it is really hard to change the model
- the 3D model is made in such a way that it is hard (or even impossible) to change parameters (height, width, thickness and so on)

There is also the fact that no matter how good and precise the 3D model is, it might need a fudge factor to print correctly on a 3D printer (if it is two parts that need to fit together just right for example).

So be prepared that ordering something printed from Thingiverse just might need more iterations than ordering a PCB for example. The being said, I haven't tried any commercial 3D printing services (like ShapeWays) so maybe they are better than this.

IMHO, the best approach for 3D printing is having access to a 3D printer yourself and designing your own 3D models (I'm using OpenSCAD and have recently started to learn and use FreeCAD), it shortens the iteration time considerably.
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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by Elminster » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:23 pm

Thanks. Agree that in a world where I had enough time, space and money that would be ideal. Having said that a kindly soul has taken pity on me and offered me a bargain price on a 3rd printer. Just have time and space issue to resolve now.

Still be interested to know peoples third party printing experiences on Other must be in a similar boat.
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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by Elminster » Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:18 pm

In the end, I got Dave H's Huxley and finally built it up over Easter. Now I have the bug, another expensive hobby ........

Quite pleased with the results of a noob on a 6 year old printer (reprap's have to replicate themselves, plus the standard 3dboaty and test cube). Now I need to see if I can fit the things on the bed I wanted to print back in september.....
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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by scruss » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:16 am

That looks like amazing quality from a Huxley. You must have built it very straight and rigid

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by danielj » Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:47 am

scruss wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:16 am
That looks like amazing quality from a Huxley. You must have built it very straight and rigid
I have a Huxley - bit long in the tooth, but so long as you're careful when you put them together they do yield good prints - the biggest pain in the bum is levelling the bed! :)

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by MartinB » Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:18 am

Duncan wrote:Now I have the bug....
:shock: 😬 😷

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by Elminster » Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:39 am

danielj wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:47 am
scruss wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:16 am
That looks like amazing quality from a Huxley. You must have built it very straight and rigid
I have a Huxley - bit long in the tooth, but so long as you're careful when you put them together they do yield good prints - the biggest pain in the bum is levelling the bed! :)

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Yes 3 screws in the middle is right royal pain to level. Not sure who thought that was a good idea back in the day, cost I suppose.

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by Elminster » Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:40 am

scruss wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:16 am
That looks like amazing quality from a Huxley. You must have built it very straight and rigid
Many hours spent with engineers ruler,calipers and a set square.

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by scruss » Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:54 pm

Time and care is what's needed with these. Oh, and blue threadlock, if you can be bothered. The first printer I built was always a bit skewed.

3-4 point levelling is only a pain until the device settles, then it's something to do every few months. I'm still amazed to find 3-point levelling on really expensive printers like the Dremel 3D45. Admittedly, that one does it semi-automatically with a microswitch, but it still doesn't have automatic correction.

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by Elminster » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:06 am

Mine is pretty level, and for newer printers will be an issue of the past with bed levelling. I don’t think 3 screws for levelling is the issue, it is more that on the Huxley the two levelling screw on the same side are nearer to the centre line than the edge. I expect it would be vastly easier to level if you could move them to the edge, but that would be a huge redesign. Definitely low on my todo list. Playing with parts fan for better overhangs and bridging is first....

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by Elminster » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:11 pm

Well 10 months after I started the thread I now have the Gotek cases that kicked all the printer milarky off. Although I had to slice them in half to fit them on the Huxley (or I would have been pulling support out of them forever). In hindsight I should have remixed the design from thingiverse to make it shorter as it is a bit of a pain to get the cables in.
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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by jonb » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:34 pm

Looks good Duncan, but I can only see the front edge.

What are the tops like? 😉

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by daveejhitchins » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:38 pm

I always think the "knob" is too prominent and could do with a much shorter one!

One day I'll get my two Goteks sorted out and print 'short' knobs for them :mrgreen:

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by Elminster » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:16 pm

jonb wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:34 pm
Looks good Duncan, but I can only see the front edge.

What are the tops like? 😉
The tops are poor due to the design and then splitting them (they have writing on the top (now the bottom), which plays havoc, I should have dropped the print through the bed slightly to lose the text and smooth the print. But didn't think of that till later. They will do for now, once the CR6 arrives I might print them as they are meant to be, but then they are hidden underneath the master anyway, so I might not bother. All prints are a learning experience!

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by Elminster » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:19 pm

daveejhitchins wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:38 pm
I always think the "knob" is too prominent and could do with a much shorter one!

One day I'll get my two Goteks sorted out and print 'short' knobs for them :mrgreen:

Dave H :D
Will check back in 10 months :)

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Re: Printing on Thingiverse

Post by daveejhitchins » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:08 am

Elminster wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:19 pm
daveejhitchins wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:38 pm
I always think the "knob" is too prominent and could do with a much shorter one!

One day I'll get my two Goteks sorted out and print 'short' knobs for them :mrgreen:

Dave H :D
Will check back in 10 months :)
You're being optimistic :lol:

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