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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby flaxcottage » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:24 am

No good me bidding. Smittenbyakitten has banned any of my bids - must be the offer of £10 for a load of educational software listed at £395. :twisted:
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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby leenew » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:19 am

I think it was a fair bid John :D
well the compilation can be removed from the MIA list as we have those 4 games.
Am I to deduce that the Konami Coin op hits for the beeb did not include ping pong and so ping pong was NOT released for the beeb?
Ping pong is on the speccy and C64 versions of the tape....
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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby CMcDougall » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:45 pm

Lee, you could update these as well:
77. Explorer (Dragon)? =>(DragonSoft)---rastilan supplied, ColM Archived :D
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94. Fox And Geese (Garland Computing)----Is this not a crap type in game from Input Vol 3 No. 35 to 37 magazine? I remember typing it in BITD, and it never worked! :lol:
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115. Pirates Peril (Heyley) -----DaveH Archived =D>
116. Rising Crime (Heyley)-----maybe DaveH knows if existed for elk/beeb??
117. Taroda Scheme (Heyley)-----DaveH Archived
118. Ultimate Prize (Heyley)-----DaveH Archived
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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby leenew » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:52 pm

Col, I have highlighted EXPLORER. - cheers.
Don't know if fox and geese is same as the one you mention??
I am not going to highlight the Heyley adventures though as the ones Dave found are the Elk versions, and the beeb ones will be Mode 7 and MAY be expanded??
So I am leaving 'em :D

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby lurkio » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:32 am

leenew wrote:or do we know of any more missing gems waiting to be discovered?

Does The Magic Telephone Box count? I've never seen it myself, but there are a few rumours and some apparently fond memories of it on teh webs:


(People seem to remember playing it at school, so it might have been an educational game.)

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby Cybershark » Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:05 am

Annoying to see the Beeb getting badmouthed without much comeback in that old thread :x
Sure, Repton was based on Boulderdash but the 2 were worlds apart. And yeah... where did Elite originate? 8)

flaxcottage wrote:No good me bidding. Smittenbyakitten has banned any of my bids - must be the offer of £10 for a load of educational software listed at £395. :twisted:

lmao :)

leenew wrote:86. Vader Raid (First Byte)

104. Cyboto (Godax)

114. Cell And Serpent (Hexagon)

272. Sin (Viper)

Vader Raid? Best off lost. I remember a friend having this on his Elk. It was a piss-poor BASIC alien attack type game. No saving graces whatsoever.

Cyboto? I thought the general consensus was that it never had a release?

Cell And Serpent? Hrmm... I have a type-in called "Cells & Serpents" it was a randomly generated Dungeons & Dragons (text-based) game. I was quite fond of it and it was pretty epic when you got a good run, recruited a whole bunch of bruisers to your team and could then tear through all opposition :)
...on the flipside, the random nature left it susceptible to you being trapped in a single room due to a cave-in. Still, I did once try to port (and improve) this.
Can upload if required.

Sin? Pretty sure you mean "Sim" ;)


An omission (by my count) would be "Man at Arms" - originally an Archie title, this was mentioned in a ProAction catalogue as being available in a Beeb form.

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby davidb » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:53 am

Cybershark wrote:Annoying to see the Beeb getting badmouthed without much comeback in that old thread :x
Sure, Repton was based on Boulderdash but the 2 were worlds apart. And yeah... where did Elite originate? 8)

I think Tim Tyler claimed that he'd never seen Boulderdash before he wrote Repton, but was perhaps aware of the idea behind the game. There's an interview with him somewhere, I think.

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby richardtoohey » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:28 am

There's one here http://www.edge-online.com/features/making-repton/ where he says that.

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Postby davidb » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:14 am

Yes, that's the interview/article I was thinking of. Thanks for finding it! :D

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby Cybershark » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:59 pm

Seems my recollection was a little off regarding "Cells & Serpents". It wasn't something I'd typed in, but instead an A&B Computing game which appears on a few PD discs - and there are 2 versions of it floating around. Fun to play, but wasn't actually the game I was thinking of!

The game I recall is very similar and definitely was a type-in from a book. In it the player explores a randomly generated cave system/dungeon on a quest for treasure and encounters creatures both friendly and nasty, and the former can be recruited to aid you. I'm sure I still have it festering away on a cassette somewhere, but it seems I never transferred it over to disc :(

Anyone know the game of which I speak? Or have a copy of it?

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby leenew » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:44 pm

Hi,
Does anyone know of a game called "Miss Molly Mop" from Apocalypse software?
It is in an advert on page 156 of the March 1984 edition of "Personal Computer Games".

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby aerworuld » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:25 am

Cybershark wrote:Cell And Serpent? Hrmm... I have a type-in called "Cells & Serpents" it was a randomly generated Dungeons & Dragons (text-based) game. I was quite fond of it and it was pretty epic when you got a good run, recruited a whole bunch of bruisers to your team and could then tear through all opposition :)
...on the flipside, the random nature left it susceptible to you being trapped in a single room due to a cave-in. Still, I did once try to port (and improve) this.
Can upload if required.



This sounds like my cup of tea! I'd love to have a go at this, if the offer of upload is still on?

Stuart :)

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby lurkio » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:25 am

leenew wrote:Does anyone know of a game called "Miss Molly Mop" from Apocalypse software?
It is in an advert on page 156 of the March 1984 edition of "Personal Computer Games".

Here's the ad in question:
PersonalComputerGames_04_0155.jpg

Looks like a number of (non-Beeb) Apocalypse Software games are missing in action:

http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseek ... loadpics=1

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby leenew » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:50 am

Also found another one. "Zombies Revenge" by Arrowsoft.
Looks great :lol:

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby leenew » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:52 pm

Another observation or 4...
If A&F Early Warning is MIA then Polecat should be on the list too as these were both earlier A&F titles converted to the beeb from their Atom versions.

Also, Asteroid Lander is listed as MIA by ASP software.
However, Plastered Postman is archived.
According to the computing history website, both titles were on one cassette so maybe Arcadian could dig that out and have a check??
http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/cgi/ ... =Publisher

Also, Detective by ASP seems to MIA too. **

Moving on to Doctor Soft:
The double tape MUNCHER / GHOST MINE is listed MIA as is MISSION ALPHA 3D which was a double tape with WOLFPACK III which IS archived. Can someone check to see if they have that tape please.
Similarly, the double tape KREMLIN / BONDSKI, we have KREMLIN but not BONDSKI!

Lastly, VIPER by RH is MIA but I believe Arcadian has this somewhere??

**Does anyone know Jason Fitzpatrick well enough to convince him to let us archive the MIA tapes in his collection?**
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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby leenew » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:59 pm

Found another one from the MIA list 8)
It sounds rivetting :D

Col, I will send it up to you for UEFing if that's OK.....

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby leenew » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:54 pm

I have done a few updates on the MIA list.
Would anyone disagree with any of the comments??

Ta,

1..Alpha Worm (A Carver)
2. Bouncing The Cat (A Carver)
3. Life Survival (A Carver)
4. Maximus (A Carver)
5. Memy (A Carver)
6. Pairs (A Carver)
7. Starshot II (A Carver)
8. Ghosts (A Lane)
9. Helicopter (A Lane)
10. Road Race (A Lane)
11. Tunnel (A Lane)
12. Early Warning (A&F)
13. Link4Plus (ABC Games)
14. Word Puzzles (Ablesoft)

15. Super Adventure (Adventuresoft) IS THIS AKA HE MAN or TERRAQUAKE?
16. Sword of the Samurai (Adventuresoft) - DOUBTFUL RELEASE

17. Battleships (AE Allcock)
18. Akross (Akom)
19. Sun Computer Crosswords Vol 1-10 (Akom)
20. Times Computer Crosswords Vol 1-10 (Akom)
21. ABM (Alligata)

22. Pub Games (Alligata) DOUBTFUL RELEASE

23. Quiz Quest (Alligata) ARCHIVED on MB's disc 088
24. ALPS (Alpine Games)
25. Whitewash (Amcom)
26. Blob, The (Andrew Globe)
27. Asteroid Lander (ASP)

28. Complete BBC (Audiogenic) ARCHIVED COMPILATION
29. Fab Four 2 (Audiogenic) Compilation tape. GAMES ARCHIVED SEPERATELY

30. Bounty Pirates (Aztec Games)
31. Mission Impossible (Aztec Games)
32. Princes (Aztec Games)
33. Squash (Aztec Games)
34. Games Pack 1 (BBC Soft)

35. Hall Of Mirrors (BBC Soft) EDUCATIONAL TITLE

36. Radar (Beaufort)
37. Grandslam (BJ Flynn)

38. Lazer Squad (Blade Games) DOUBTFUL RELEASE

39. Bridgeman (Bridge Games)
40. Monster Battles (Bryants)
41. Show Jumper (Bryants)

42. Bug Byte Collection 1 (Bug-Byte) GAMES ARCHIVED SEPERATELY
43. Bug Byte Collection 2 (Bug-Byte) GAMES ARCHIVED SEPERATELY
44. Dragon Quest 2 (Bug-Byte) DOUBTFUL RELEASE

45. Horse Race Forecaster (Butronics)

46. 3D (CDS) DOUBTFUL RELEASE



47. European Superleague (CDS) DOUBTFUL RELEASE
48. Home Entertainment Center, The (CDS) ARCHIVED on disc CD1
49. Mallory (CET) ARCHIVED IN EDUCATIONAL ADVENTURES THREAD

50. Inkosi (Chalksoft)
51. Yes Chancellor (Chalksoft)
52. Mansion Murders (Challenge Games)
53. Mission Control (CJE)
54. Cresuillion (CMG)
55. Bounce (Computercat)
56. Compendium (Computercat)
57. Grig Blitz (Computercat)
58. Snig (Computercat)
59. Square Root (Computereyes)
60. 3D Ice Hockey (Computersmith)
61. Detective (Computersmith)
62. Guzzler (Computersmith)
63. Oil (Computersmith)
64. Jet Pilot (Comsoft)

65. Egg (Crystal Soft) ARCHIVED (Chuckie Egg 5)

66. Mercy Mission (DACC)
67. Beeb Chase (Database)
68. Connect 4 (Database)
69. Midway (Design People)

70. Tramix (DK'Tronics) DOUBTFUL RELEASE

71. Bondski (Doctor Soft)
72. Ghost Mine (Doctor Soft)
73. Mission Alpha 3D (Doctor Soft)
74. Muncher (Doctor Soft)

75. Star Wars Trilogy (Domark) ARCHIVED as 3 games

76. Partner Whist (Dotsoft)

77. Explorer (Dragon) NOW ARCHIVED

78. Fruity Fruity (Ephagy)
79. Quest For Merlin (Excalibur)
80. Millennium (Falcon)
81. Hereward The Rebel (Fernleaf)
82. Alien (First Byte)
83. Caves Of Anoran (First Byte)
84. Descender (First Byte)
85. Starfighter (First Byte)
86. Vader Raid (First Byte)
87. Matthew's Murder (Foxsoft)
88. Quest For The Golden Wombat (Foxsoft)
89. Castle Of Fantasy (Frazer Bennett)
90. Arcade Games (Ganymede)
91. Ba-awa (Garland Computing)
92. Casino (Garland Computing)
93. Disputing Tens (Garland Computing)
94. Fox And Geese (Garland Computing)
95. Ming Mang (Garland Computing)
96. Pyramid (Garland Computing)
97. Six Mens Morris (Garland Computing)
98. Tablut (Garland Computing)
99. Three Mens Morris (Garland Computing)
100. Threes And Fives (Garland Computing)
101. Angle Zap (Gem)
102. L Trap (Gem)
103. Super Teams (Gilvale)
104. Cyboto (Godax)
105. Titan (Goldsoft)
106. Games Of Logic And Cunning (Golem)
107. Kon Tiki (Golem)

108. Superlife (Golem) NOW ARCHIVED

109. World War 1 (Grandslam)

110. Minefield (Graphic Research) NOW ARCHIVED
111. Orbit Zero (Graphic Research) NOW ARCHIVED

112. Landfall And Serpent (GT)
113. Billiards (H and H)
114. Cell And Serpent (Hexagon)
115. Pirates Peril (Heyley)
116. Rising Crime (Heyley)
117. Taroda Scheme (Heyley)
118. Ultimate Prize (Heyley)
119. Firefight (Highlight)
120. Atom Man (Hopesoft)
121. Escape From Orion 2 (Hopesoft)
122. Mixed Games (IJK)
123. Super Simon (IJK)

124. Konami Coin Op Hits GAMES ARCHIVED SEPERATELY


125. Ping Pong (Imagine) DOUBTFUL RELEASE

126. Birdies (Inspring)
127. Manoala (Inspring)
128. Zarlix (Inspring)
129. Cliche, The (Ixion)
130. Community (Ixion)
131. Interzone Shift (Ixion)
132. Life (Ixion)
133. Miner (Ixion) ARCHIVED

134. Card Sharper (Kansas)
135. Hi Lo (Kansas)
136. Space Cab (Kansas)
137. Jungle Ambush (Kindsoft)
138. Car Race (Kingfisher)

139. Answer Back Sport (Kosmos) ARCHIVED (Leisure/Kosmos)

140. Star Lander (Kudosoft)
141. Star Patrol (Kudosoft)
142. Quest For The Pendragon (Labyrinth)
143. Risk (Leisure Genius)

144. Knight Orc (Level 9) DOUBTFUL RELEASE

145. Konexion (M&M)
146. East Enders (Macsen)
147. Discovery, The (Magic)
148. Escape From Solaris (Magic)
149. Galaxy's Edge (Magic)

150. Vixen (Martech) DOUBTFUL RELEASE

151. BBC Pools Predictor (Mayday)
152. Life Plus (Mayday)

153. Mordon's Quest (Melbourne House) DOUBTFUL RELEASE

154. Curse of the Middle (Merlin)
155. Gobbler (MGB) NOW ARCHIVED

156. Battlefield (Micro Aid)
157. Cards (Micro Aid)
158. Games 1 (Micro Aid)
159. Glooper (Micro Plus)
160. Diplomacy (Microlink)
161. Games Pack 2 (Micromail)
162. Vogon Attack (Micromail)
163. Crossword Puzzler (Microtrust)
164. Break Up (Miking)
165. Robot (Miking)
166. Skwosh (Miking)
167. Spacefight (Miking)
168. Crusaders (Molimerx)
169. Fairytale (Molimerx)
170. King Arthur (Molimerx)
171. Napoleon (Molimerx)
172. Shootout (MP)
173. Digital X-word Compiler (N Darwood)
174. 20 Crosswords (NEC)
175. How Is That (Noel Lamb)

ALL NORWICH COMPUTER SERVICES TITLES ARE DOUBTUL RELEASES AND PROBABLY WERE ARCHIMEDES ONLY TITLES.

176. 3D Breakout (Norwich Computer Services)
177. Asteroids (Norwich Computer Services)
178. Bowls (Norwich Computer Services)
179. Descent Into Xear (Norwich Computer Services)
180. Rollerball (Norwich Computer Services)
181. Rubik's Clock (Norwich Computer Services)
182. Sliding Block (Norwich Computer Services)
183. Yaig (Norwich Computer Services)


184. Nodes Of Yesod (Odin) DOUBTFUL RELEASE

185. Adventure 1 (Odyssey)
186. Adventure 2 (Odyssey)
187. Arcade 1 (Odyssey)
188. Beeboids (Odyssey)
189. Fruity (Odyssey)
190. Counter Attack (OIC)
191. Dodgy Dealer (OIC)
192. Chart Challenge 87 (Outlook)
193. Sail Plane (Pavillion)
194. Quicksilva (Players)
195. Grounded (Potter Programs)
196. Potters Arcade Pack (Potter Programs)
197. Trivia Time (Premier)
198. Pinetown Golf Course (Prickly)
199. Games Tape 1 (Pro Software)
200. Magic Grotto (Pro Software)
201. Microman (Pro Software)
202. Games 2 (Processor Applications)
203. 2 Player Games Duet (Proxima)
204. 3D Tic Tac Toe (Proxima)
205. 4 Line (Proxima)
206. Frustration (Proxima)
207. Games Quartet (Proxima)

208. Robobrain (Proxima) IS THIS THE SAME AS THE MGB RELEASE?

209. Star Game (Proxima)
210. Trawler (Proxima)
211. 3D Mouse Maze (Rainbow)
212. Doctor, The (Ranjan)
213. Galactic Jailer (Ranjan)
214. Haunted Mansion (Ranjan)
215. Mini Opoly (Ranjan)
216. Night Rider (Ranjan)
217. Zaks (Ranjan)

218. Tripods, The (Redshift) DOUBTFUL RELEASE
219. Aussie Suds (Riverdale) DOUBTFUL COMMERCIAL RELEASE

220. Paranormal (Riverdale)
221. What The Dickens (Riverdale)
222. Assassin (Robico) ARCHIVED (aka RICK HANSON)

223. Blazing Star (Robico)
224. Exile On Exon (Rombus)
225. Jewels Of Nabooti (S Grist)
226. One Armed Bandit (S Houghton)
227. Abductor (Salamander)
228. Fishy Business (Salamander) DOUBTFUL RELEASE

229. Games Compendium 1 (Salamander) MAY BE ARCHIVED AS COMPENDIUM B1

230. Games Compendium 2 (Salamander)
231. Games Compendium 3 (Salamander) MAY BE ARCHIVED AS COMPENDIUM B3
232. Gridrunner (Salamander)
233. Lazer Zone (Salamander)
234. Frog Jump (Sapphire)
235. Simcon (Scitech)
236. Magic Eye (Sentinel)

237. Wizard's Revenge (Sherston) ARCHIVED
238. Wizards Return (Sherston) ARCHIVED

239. Gateway To The Stars (Silverlind)
240. Pentiles (Silverlind)
241. Towntest (Silverlind) ARCHIVED

242. Castaway (Simonsoft)
243. OG (Simonsoft)
244. Kalahari (Sixth Sense)
245. Search For The Jewels (SJB)
246. Broanmaze (SNT)
247. Cobra (Software For All) NOW ARCHIVED

248. Ghost Maze (Software For All)
249. Robo Swamp (Software For All) NOW ARCHIVED

250. Space Kingdom (Software For All)
251. Games Disc, The (Squirrel Soft)
252. Picasso (Starsoft)
253. Ken 1 (Statasoft) ARCHIVED COMPILATION OF POKER DICE, DARTS, AND PENTOMINOES

254. Ken 2 (Statasoft) KEN 2 IS A COMPILATION OF LUDO, MATCH UP, TABLES AND TANGRAMS. LUDO IS THE ONLY ONE ARCHIVED.

255. Match Up (Statasoft)
256. Tables (Statasoft)
257. Tangrams (Statasoft)
258. Flight Path (Storm)
259. Magic Of Merlin, The (Tigersoft)
260. Fugelmere (TNL Soft)
261. Gunslinger (TNL Soft)
262. Legend (TNL Soft)

263. Scott Trilogy, The (Top Ten) 3 games ARCHIVED

264. Magic And Mayhem (Tortoise)
265. Pentoms (Tortoise)
266. Cosmic Battlezones (U.S.Gold) ARCHIVED COMPILATION

267. Top Team (Universal)
268. Double Turn (Vannin)
269. Golden Maze (Vannin)
270. Laser Attack (Viking)
271. Spider Seller (Viking)

272. Sin (Viper) probably should be SIM - this is archived on Pernod's and Mick's discs just NOT on the STH143...

273. Conflict (Virgin Games)
274. Landing Party (Willow Software)

PLUS SOME MORE POSSIBLE MIA'S THAT HAVE BEEN RECENTLY MENTIONED:

275. Haunted House (Silverlind)
276. Invaders (Software for all)
277. Miss Molly Mop (Apocalypse)
278. Zombies Revenge (Arrowsoft)
279. Polecat (A&F)
280. Detective (ASP) - In the computing history archive
281. Viper (RH Electronics) - Arcadian has a copy I believe
282. Jubilee Puzzles (Akom)


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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby Pernod » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:15 am

272. Sin (Viper)

Isn't this supposed to be Sim by Viper?
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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby leenew » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:21 am

Hi Pernod,

Someone else (Cybershark I think) mentioned this earlier.
As it was not my original list (It's PitfallJones's) I left it.
I will do some digging, and see if I can unearth any info about "SIN"?

Lee.

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby leenew » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:39 am

OK,

I have looked at my normal sources and can't find anything about SIN.
However, SIM is NOT on the STH 143 disc collection, (and neither is ULTRON!) but does appear on your discs and one of Mick's discs.
Maybe that's why it ended up on the list?

I think I am going to remove it.

Lee.

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby Michael Brown » Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:00 pm

Hi Lee,
Quiz Quest from Alligata is on my Disc 088.

Mick.

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby Jeremy Grayson » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:24 pm

leenew wrote:
229. Games Compendium (Salamander)
230. Games Compendium 2 (Salamander)
231. Games Compendium 3 (Salamander)


I've got the original cassette of two of these at home in a big pile of stuff to sell off - probably volumes 1 and 3 but I'll check.

I'd be pretty sure that they contain Salamander games (three or four each, IIRC) already archived individually in the assorted repositories out there in cyberspace, otherwise I'd be keeping them. Then again, maybe I wouldn't, as I do also recall that every single game across the pair of them was complete and utter rammel. 8)

More details to follow as soon as I can provide them.

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby Jeremy Grayson » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:35 pm

Arcadian wrote:
There is of course the BBC Games Archive site to use as a reference too, but a lot of the 'missing' titles listed there are dubious to say the least (I think people have emailed in saying I definitely remember so-and-so on the Beeb, when in reality, BITD they were either playing it on another platform, or are recalling a clone/type-in equivalent).


Not quite 8) . I don't think there's a single game that Crispin and I listed on TBGA that wasn't either released, advertised for release or promised for release in one of the trade magazines or the newsletter of a club (i.e. Impact Games Club, Home Computing Club).

Mistakes would be consistent with those of the sources named above, and with our lack of guile back then (most data collated between 1997-2000) where identifying any such potential clangers was concerned 8) .

I can definitely confirm that virtually every author-published game in the Missing list featured in the Small Ads section of Acorn User over the years, usually in the form of nothing more than a couple of lines confirming game titles, material format and contact phone number for orders.

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby leenew » Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:07 pm

Hi Jeremy,
Yes I think the Salamander games were terrible, but I would still rather archive them than lose them :D
It would be great if you could dig them out.

Thanks,

Lee.

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby Jeremy Grayson » Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:27 pm

Hello again,

Can confirm, having checked the sleeves against those in the STH cover scans archive, that the Salamander tapes I have are as follows:

Games Compendium 1
Alphabet Soup
Simon
Hangman
Fireman

Games Compendium 3
Mole
Boot Hill
Bomber

Are any or all of these titles widely available in archive-land already?

gc
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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby leenew » Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:37 pm

Hi,
Yep, we have those. :D
What you have are Compendium B1 and B3. I believe the missing ones are just 1, 2, and 3

Cheers for looking!

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby Jeremy Grayson » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:17 pm

I've half got it in the back of my mind that Salamander's Games Compendium vols 1 to 3 and Games Compendium vols B1 to B3 might actually be the same series, with the "B" suffix applied in some listings and not in others.

What the mind forgets with the passing of time, though - I've had a look this evening on a folder on my laptop of box scans I passed to both Crispin at TBGA and Dave Moore at STH for upload onto their respective sites - an lo and behold, the two Salamander sleeves are among its contents! Must have been knocking 12-14 years or so since I passed those on...

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby leenew » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:42 pm

Interesting :wink:
I am almost convinced there are only 3 salamander compendiums :-k
I have looked at the covers on beebgames.
In fact I can't see a reference to 1, 2 or 3, or B1, B2, B3.
Of course the B2 cover is missing......

If there are just the 3 we are just missing compendium 2 (or B2)...


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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby Jeremy Grayson » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:27 pm

Worth pointing out that all of the cover scans out there are of the front cover only. However, I've just re-checked the scans I submitted to both aforementioned websites, and I see that these originally included scans of the spines, too. The numbers on those spines are given as B1 and B3...

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Re: Record of known releases missing from archive

Postby leenew » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:43 pm

Thanks Jeremy,
Do you agree with / disagree with or have any opinion at all (or have a copy of) about any other games mentioned on this page? :D

Lee.


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