Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

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Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby CMcDougall » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:27 pm

Got my old original PS1 out the loft, and about 10% of my original 'CD's work
and only about 5% of the 'backup' CDs :(
may be hence why it got put up the loft! :lol:
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they are always bad for the laser burning out, & even got Sony to replace mine BITD about 5x :roll:
but, now (16+yrs later), does anyone know a good source for this (KSM-440BAM) part?
noticed on eBay some Hong Kong sellers for about £11, anyone recommend /used these.....
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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby trixster » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:24 am

If I remember correctly you can replace the laser with one from a PSOne, which go on eBay for about a fiver! I did this last year and it works perfectly. I believe the PSOne mechanism has metal rails rather than plastic ones so is less likely to suffer from heat problems associated with the PS1.

Do a Google search for the exact details. I think you have to take the housing off your existing laser and put that onto the psone's laser in order to get it to fit.
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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby CMcDougall » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:28 pm

^cheers!
just checked some pics on eBay of the 'slim' pSone, and indeed the laser housing looks the same, but cream colour, not black,
per mine below:
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found a cream one, but all seem to be from same seller in Hong Kong, so 2wk wait...
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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby vanpeebles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:36 pm

Did you try running it upside? (Turned off before rotating!)

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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby CMcDougall » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:01 pm

^no, as that scratches the discs to death,
& still does not solve the problem of 5% working / when it feels like it :x
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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby vanpeebles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:12 pm

I remember that fixing a mates one back in the day. We all started to panic we were going to miss out on our nightly battles on Point Blank. :lol: It was ran upside for a week or so and seemed to fix itself.

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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby dgrubb » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:58 pm

It's a real shame that cool machines from that era are becoming more difficult to enjoy due to failing mechanical components. In the Sega Saturn world somebody went so far as to crack the console for the express purpose of allowing content to be loaded from sources other than the optical drive:

http://kotaku.com/after-20-years-someon ... 1783480023

I'm surprised there hasn't been a comparable modification in the PSOne space, considering it had a much larger install base. Then again, maybe that's the problem with its ubiquity providing a glut of spare parts?

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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby CMcDougall » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:35 pm

^that would be good, just like my 'cheat' cart (pink thing on back top pic), but with a 32gb or above HCSD micro card, so no moving /crap burnt out lasers!
A quick fix is play originals in my PS2, pity only got 5.... 8-[

may have to wait a decade until games /.BIN images are legal & someone makes a special cart
, hope not as hard as what that guy done in the above video :shock:

daughter now wants Crash Bandicoot, but they still go for >£30 :?
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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby trixster » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:02 pm

The PS1 has such a device - it's called the PS-IO. I have one and it's brilliant. Load ISOs or BINs onto an sd card and away you go, no need for CDs anymore.
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Postby ThomasHarte » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:12 pm

trixster wrote:The PS1 has such a device - it's called the PS-IO. I have one and it's brilliant. Load ISOs or BINs onto an sd card and away you go, no need for CDs anymore.

I'd be quite interested in one of those but I don't think I have sufficient soldering skills, given that I have none whatsoever.

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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby dgrubb » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:24 pm

trixster wrote:The PS1 has such a device - it's called the PS-IO. I have one and it's brilliant. Load ISOs or BINs onto an sd card and away you go, no need for CDs anymore.


Nice!

ThomasHarte wrote:I'd be quite interested in one of those but I don't think I have sufficient soldering skills, given that I have none whatsoever.


On the brightside it looks like all the soldering points are exposed vias and pin connections. It'd be cutting the traces that I'd be a little more concerned about, especially that one right in between the pins in the top-left: http://ps-io.com/images/switchboard/example.JPG

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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby danielj » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:03 pm

Doesn't look like it'll play with a PSOne :(

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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby CMcDougall » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:46 pm

^yeah, because they are only good for laser spares for the Real Deal daddy PS1 :)

just checked out / watched vid on how its done, but then checked price AU $150 + $5 +$22.46 postage = £109 :shock:
and none in stock #-o ,
so buying a spare PSone for £10 with all bits and bobs is better than £12 for a new PS1 laser 8)
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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby danielj » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:02 pm

:lol: =D>

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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby trixster » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:32 am

ThomasHarte wrote:
trixster wrote:The PS1 has such a device - it's called the PS-IO. I have one and it's brilliant. Load ISOs or BINs onto an sd card and away you go, no need for CDs anymore.

I'd be quite interested in one of those but I don't think I have sufficient soldering skills, given that I have none whatsoever.


You can send them your motherboard and they can install the io switchboard.
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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby trixster » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:36 am

CMcDougall wrote:^yeah, because they are only good for laser spares for the Real Deal daddy PS1 :)

just checked out / watched vid on how its done, but then checked price AU $150 + $5 +$22.46 postage = £109 :shock:
and none in stock #-o ,
so buying a spare PSone for £10 with all bits and bobs is better than £12 for a new PS1 laser 8)


Yes, sadly the psio is very expensive and very popular, I was on the waiting list for about 18months.

It's much more cost effective and sensible to chip your ps1 so it can use cd-r's.
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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby sbadger » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:16 pm

two things come to mind

Just a dirty laser?

or if i recall back to the mod chips of the day, wasn't there a pot that needed adjustment to get cdrs working? that may have died.
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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby johnkenyon » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:27 pm

sbadger wrote:two things come to mind

Just a dirty laser?

or if i recall back to the mod chips of the day, wasn't there a pot that needed adjustment to get cdrs working? that may have died.


Is this of any interest? - http://dogbreath.de/PS1/LaserAlignment/Laser.html

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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby CMcDougall » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:44 pm

^ cheers, some of my readings where out, so adjusted exactly to the readings on that info
guess what.... still skipping, so Laser defo knackered :cry:

& now the China eBay seller says all replacement laser stock is bad quality, and gave me a refund :(
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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby CMcDougall » Thu May 11, 2017 6:51 pm

got a PSone with broken lid but laser works for £5 IncP&P!

Only difference is its a 440BAM, swap grey top with original black so it fits :)
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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby trixster » Sat May 13, 2017 7:14 am

That's exactly what I did! And for £5 as well!

Does it work?
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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby CMcDougall » Sat May 13, 2017 8:06 am

^ of course it does! Hence the post to let other peeps know 8)

so all my 'backups' :^o work again :D

even made a Crash Bandicoot CD too, as not paying >£20 for it, so I now have happy kids =P~
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Re: Sony PlayStation1 laser replace?

Postby bughunter » Sat May 13, 2017 11:43 am

Something to try before binning a CD or DVD mech, give the inside an air blast from a distance. They use a dual lens astigmatic system for focus, it's the second internal hidden lens that gets the dust build up (which is why lens cleaner discs are neither use nor ornament) but be careful with the blast strength as the second lens has a delicate internal suspension.


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