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AtoMMC

Postby JannievanZyl » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:11 am

Recently joined this forum as I managed to get a beautiful Acorn Atom for my vintage computer collection. :D

Quite keen to add an AtoMMC to the system but would like to ask for feedback on exactly how to obtain one. Have read most of the threads on it but could not find clear info on the process and I would not like to randomly start PMing members.

Also, seems there is an AtoMMC3 in the making. Is this just a software increment or hardware as well?

Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks all!

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby Multiwizard » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:13 am

Hi,

you will need one of sirmorris (Charlie) his AtoMMC2's... :D

I shall pm him about this topic, so he will probably pop-up here soon... 8)


Greetings, Wim... :-)

Ps. welcome to this great Forum... :-D

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby sirmorris » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:46 am

Howdy!

Welcome aboard :D

AtoMMC2 is the name of the system as a whole. There are no plans for any updated design, but the firmware has reached version 3. Probably this is where the V3 comes from.

As a new user you can't PM yet, but I think I can PM you. I'll do so and supply you with my email address, I'm happy to answer any questions you have.

Charlie

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby daveejhitchins » Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:43 am

Welcome to the Forum, JannievanZyl . . . Enjoy . . .

And good luck with your quest for all things retro :D

Dave H :D
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Products: ARA II, ABR, ATI, AP6, MGC, AP5 . . .
For a price list, contact me at: Retro Hardware AT dave ej hitchins DOT plus DOT com

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby JannievanZyl » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:49 am

Thanks all!

Charlie, indeed, can't PM yet but got yours! :)

Mailed you.

While I've lifted the kimono on my noobness on the Atom, anything else cool I should look at for the system? :)

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby JannievanZyl » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:56 am

daveejhitchins wrote:Welcome to the Forum, JannievanZyl . . . Enjoy . . .

And good luck with your quest for all things retro :D

Dave H :D

Thanks Dave,

Probably need to substitute 'quest' above with 'addiction' or 'insanity'...... :)

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby daveejhitchins » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:02 am

JannievanZyl wrote:Probably need to substitute 'quest' above with 'addiction' or 'insanity'...... :)
Mrs H. has at least another 1000 words that describe my hobby :? :lol:

Dave H :D
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Re: AtoMMC

Postby oss003 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:04 am

Hi Jannie,

Welcome and enjoy the forum.
You can find some info about Atom additions here: http://www.stardot.org.uk/forums/viewto ... ard#p86259

Some nice additions to your Atom are a colourboard and a RAM/ROM board.
You can contact Prime (Phill) for these boards.

PS Are you the Jannie who wrote some articles in Atom News and was a member of the BBC user group?

Greetings
Kees

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby JannievanZyl » Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:55 pm

oss003 wrote:PS Are you the Jannie who wrote some articles in Atom News and was a member of the BBC user group?

Thanks Kees,

No, not me :)

Pretty new to these specific systems. Only acquired my first BBC Micro a few weeks ago as well. :)

My first machine was a Ohio Superboard, 1978. Still have it. After that a DAI (would LOVE to find one again - you guys should know the system?). Then I worked and played on a whole bunch of systems till the IBM PC pretty much killed the space.

Collection coming along nicely but there's always space for 1 more! :)
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Re: AtoMMC

Postby oss003 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:25 pm

Here are some pictures of Atom additions: http://www.stardot.org.uk/forums/viewto ... om#p141401

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby sirmorris » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:26 pm

DAI! My holy grail system - all I ever saw of one was on a cover of a UK magazine in '83? Or thereabouts. I'd love to see one in real life. I understand they were the equivalent of the BBC micro in mainland europe.

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby sirmorris » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:31 pm

Or was it Belgium..

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby JannievanZyl » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:29 pm

sirmorris wrote:Or was it Belgium..

Yup, pretty much a Belgium effort.

Will for sure be my Holy Grail system as well. I had just enough money in the day for a computer or a motorbike. so I bought the DAI. 'Nuff said. :)

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby msch » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:38 am

Hi, I joined this forum yesterday after I got an Atom for my vintage computer collection (after a long search) :-)
I want to add an AtoMMC2 and I want to ask how to obtain one. I hope there is one left...
Because I am new in this forum, I am not able to send private messages - please contact me :D
Thanks in advance
Mathias (member of the german ZX-Team)

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby sirmorris » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:26 am

If you are who I think you are you should have an email.

If not, well ... :oops:

:lol:

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby trixster » Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:20 pm

Hi Charlie,

I've just obtained an Atom too! Could I PM you to see how to go about getting an AtoMMC as well?

Thanks!

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby sirmorris » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:25 pm

For sure. No need to ask :lol:

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby msch » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:13 am

sirmorris wrote:If you are who I think you are you should have an email.
If not, well ... :oops:
:lol:


Email received - thank You very much!

This is my new atom:

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=12821

edit: link corrected
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Re: AtoMMC

Postby DutchAcorn » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:51 am

msch wrote:
sirmorris wrote:If you are who I think you are you should have an email.
If not, well ... :oops:
:lol:


Email received - thank You very much!

This is my new atom:

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=12802

Are you sure? I thought it was this one: http://stardot.org.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=12821 8)
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Re: AtoMMC

Postby msch » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:55 pm

You're right. Link corrected - thanks!

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby JannievanZyl » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:12 pm

Got my 2 AtoMMC2 boards from Sir Morris, so exited.

Installed and seems to be working but now I'm Googling like crazy what file format I should copy to the SD card.

Hoping a kind sole will give me a quick shortcut. :)

PS. CAn anyone access http://www.8bs.com/8bscat.htm? Seems to be down.

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby Multiwizard » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:27 pm

JannievanZyl wrote:Got my 2 AtoMMC2 boards from Sir Morris, so exited.

Installed and seems to be working but now I'm Googling like crazy what file format I should copy to the SD card.

Hoping a kind sole will give me a quick shortcut. :)

PS. CAn anyone access http://www.8bs.com/8bscat.htm? Seems to be down.

I think it´s this one:

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=6544&hilit=atom+archive&start=990#p140000


Greetings, Wim... :-)

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby hoglet » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:29 pm

Edit: Wim got in ahead of me....

To get started, have you tried the Atom Software Archive?
viewtopic.php?t=6544

Unzip to the SD Card, then just Shift-Break.

Once a "chapter" has been selected, press ? for help.

The "S" command (search) is all I ever end up using now.

Dave

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby oss003 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:35 pm

AtoMMC can read .ATM files which can be created by saving a file in Atomulator.
An ATM file is a standard file with a header.
You can find the manual and info about the header here: http://members.casema.nl/hhaydn/SD-files/atommmc2.html

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby JannievanZyl » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:45 pm

Thanks, this helps a lot!

Saw and downloaded the archives but the documentation of the AtoMMC2 seems to say it supports ATM format and that where I got stuck.

So, basically the files in the archive will run directly from the AtoMMC2 SD?

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby hoglet » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:47 pm

Yes, everything in the archive is already in .ATM format. You just need to unzip the it onto a blank SD card, then pop it in the Atom and press Shift-Break.

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby JannievanZyl » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:31 pm

Cool bananas! Working :)

One question, how 'reliable is the Shift-Break key press? In terms of launching the menu?

I find I have to sometimes power cycle the machine once or twice or hit Shift-Break a few times before it seems to come up. Is this normal or do I have an intermittent problem (maybe dirty keys)?

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby hoglet » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:46 pm

Are you using the #A000 or the #E000 version of AtoMMC ROM?

The #A000 (that uses interrupts) is I believe a bit unreliable at initializing on reset.

If you get a modern ROM board, you can easily use the #E000 version.

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby oss003 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:51 pm

Shift Break is very stable with the #Exxx ROM and less stable with the #Axxx rom. Be sure that the Shift key is pressed a bit longer after releasing the Break key.
When the Break key is pressed, the executed code checks for a pressed Shift key so if the Shift key is released to early, it will be not detect.

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Re: AtoMMC

Postby JannievanZyl » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:20 am

Thanks!

Will be more patient with the Shift key :)

I mounted the main board of the AtoMMC inside the case and the SD card reader so it sticks out where the IO slot is. My machine don't have connectors installed.
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