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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby Zarchos » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:59 pm

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby richardtoohey » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:23 am

@Zarchos Tsk, tsk [-X there's very clearly a space on top of the bookshelf in the right of the picture. Wasted space!

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby tricky » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:12 am

I recently started to the broken token podcasts and in one of the early podcasts, they had a discussion of what was retro.
My conclusion was anything that reminds you of "the good old days", not the TV programme ;)
If something gives you a good feeling to have around, it can't be all bad, but you should probably try to decide if it gives you a good feeling, or if you just bought it hoping that it would.
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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby Commie_User » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:08 pm

Though with equipment, I think there's a divider between 'retro' and 'old'. A lot of it is subjective.

But I'd call it retro if something has a specific charm or magic, yet plain obsolete if something is just a pale forerunner of a new improved item. Take keyboards. There are plenty of old General MIDI keyboards with weak piano sounds and such, yet retro keyboards are collectables because they have a generation of timeless sound all their own. Like a woodgrain-finish Korg or Roland.

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby KarateEd » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:32 am

Ok, update on how I'm set up now.....

Ed...... :-)

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This Beeb has an internal DC which is my main mode of operation,
a working diskette drive,
WE ROM/RAM with tons of stuff on it,
the joysticks you can see.

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby myelin » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:18 pm

Not a setup as such, but my wife is a photographer, and I've been playing with a still life setup of hers, to take some shots of some of my hardware...

Electron:
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BBC:
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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby roland » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:22 am

I have now an extended desktop for my Atom. Both physically and logically :wink:

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256K + 6502 Inside
MAN WOMAN :shock:

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby Garrettimus » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:40 am

My Electron (I also have a Plus 3 unit that's not in the photo obviously). :D

PS.: the TV set was a gift I received from the UK!
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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby martinw » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:48 pm

New shelf up, I just hope it stays attached to the wall!

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Free'd up space for some of my other stuff now :)

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby roland » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:08 pm

Is that radio still working?
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MAN WOMAN :shock:

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby martinw » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:49 pm

Unfortunately not, this one with transistors in it from 1958 is though ...

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This capacitor let out a lot of wax when I managed to turn it on (it's full of valves).

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Once I've swapped out the capacitors in it, I'm hoping it eventually will though (it dates from about 1954).

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby Elminster » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:58 pm

Much to tidy and organised :) I have a tiny corner in my house. All my wife allows me. Have to remember to take a pic you.

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby 1024MAK » Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:10 pm

martinw wrote:This capacitor let out a lot of wax when I managed to turn it on (it's full of valves).

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My oh my, where did they make tubes small enough to fit in that capacitor? :?: :lol:

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby martinw » Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:00 pm

:lol:

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby martinw » Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:06 pm

Elminster wrote:Much to tidy and organised :) I have a tiny corner in my house. All my wife allows me. Have to remember to take a pic you.


:)

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby Richard Russell » Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:19 pm

1024MAK wrote:My oh my, where did they make tubes small enough to fit in that capacitor?

You may think you are joking, but they certainly did make 'tubes' (valves) small enough to fit in that capacitor. I had a wire-ended hearing-aid valve (tetrode, probably) that I encapsulated with a few other components to make an audio oscillator, and used to challenge people to guess what the active device was! Sadly I can't now find it otherwise I would have attached a photo, but it was similar to this.

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby flaxcottage » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:01 pm

@martinw

Someone else who collects valves. :D
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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby martinw » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:43 am

Richard Russell wrote:
1024MAK wrote:My oh my, where did they make tubes small enough to fit in that capacitor?

You may think you are joking, but they certainly did make 'tubes' (valves) small enough to fit in that capacitor. I had a wire-ended hearing-aid valve (tetrode, probably) that I encapsulated with a few other components to make an audio oscillator, and used to challenge people to guess what the active device was! Sadly I can't now find it otherwise I would have attached a photo, but it was similar to this.


That's pretty interesting Richard, I know that quite a few of the early transistors too went into hearing aids.

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby martinw » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:44 am

flaxcottage wrote:@martinw

Someone else who collects valves. :D


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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby Garrettimus » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:15 am

martinw wrote:New shelf up, I just hope it stays attached to the wall!

Martin

Very very nice, congratulations!

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby martinw » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:52 pm

Garrettimus wrote:
martinw wrote:New shelf up, I just hope it stays attached to the wall!

Martin

Very very nice, congratulations!

Cheers Garrettimus, how's your setup looking these days, you must have filled the room you were in the last time I saw it twice over by now!

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby martinw » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:57 pm

1024MAK wrote:
martinw wrote:This capacitor let out a lot of wax when I managed to turn it on (it's full of valves).

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My oh my, where did they make tubes small enough to fit in that capacitor? :?: :lol:

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These are the valves in the Ultra Troubadour radio BTW.

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And the real early transistors in the Roberts RT1.

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby 1024MAK » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:55 pm

Yes I did know that they used to make small valves. But until I saw that picture, I don't think I had seen one apart from one time in a picture. And it is a little bit smaller than I remember...
By the time I was born, let alone when I became interested in electronics, the age of the valve/tube had (apart from CRT TVs) mainly passed by.

I don't think I would leave Pro-cell cells in a modern item, let alone in a vintage radio. Duracells have a nasty habit of leaking. Emergency torches, remote controls, test gear, you name it, they've leaked in it :twisted: . And the Duracells PP3 batteries, although they don't leak too much, the cell link wires come adrift, making the battery useless long before it has supplied anywhere near it's capacity. Just look at the bottom. If there is any sign of any distortion, it's about to die... :twisted:

Sorry about the off-topic rant :oops:

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby martinw » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:20 pm

1024MAK wrote:Yes I did know that they used to make small valves. But until I saw that picture, I don't think I had seen one apart from one time in a picture. And it is a little bit smaller than I remember...
By the time I was born, let alone when I became interested in electronics, the age of the valve/tube had (apart from CRT TVs) mainly passed by.

I don't think I would leave Pro-cell cells in a modern item, let alone in a vintage radio. Duracells have a nasty habit of leaking. Emergency torches, remote controls, test gear, you name it, they've leaked in it :twisted: . And the Duracells PP3 batteries, although they don't leak too much, the cell link wires come adrift, making the battery useless long before it has supplied anywhere near it's capacity. Just look at the bottom. If there is any sign of any distortion, it's about to die... :twisted:

Sorry about the off-topic rant :oops:

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Hi Mark, thank you for the heads up, I'll swap them out immediately; any recommendations on decent batteries?

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby flaxcottage » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:51 pm

That valve radio brings back memories. I repaired and recycled loads of those back in the day.

What is the valve line up, UCH42, UF42, UBC41, UL41 and UY41? If any break I may have spares. :D
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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby martinw » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:47 pm

flaxcottage wrote:That valve radio brings back memories. I repaired and recycled loads of those back in the day.

What is the valve line up, UCH42, UF42, UBC41, UL41 and UY41? If any break I may have spares. :D


That's good to know John, yes you are correct :)

http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/ultra_trou ... u_796.html

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby martinw » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:48 pm

Out of interest how do you get the valves out, I didn't want to prise them and break them?

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby 1024MAK » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:49 pm

In terms of big brand names from the high street (and of course elsewhere), Energizer seem better.

I have used GP AA and AAA sizes without problems. I buy the large packs from Rapid (link).

So far, both these brands appear (at least to me) to have less problems with leakage.

I have a feeling that Duracell go for the maximum capacity at the expense of the amount of material that will be left when the cell becomes expired. The metal that makes up the case is also the very same material that is "consumed" by the chemical reaction.

For PP3's in smoke alarms, I'm currently trying lithium based batteries. But one I received had leaked before it got to me. So always test new cells and batteries (yes, I got a replacement). At work, I am currently trying the nx brand. But it's too early for any meaningful results. And they are not as easy to buy.
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Don't get me wrong, if abused, many Alkaline cells will leak. But IMHO Duracell are worse than you would expect for such a big brand.

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby martinw » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:05 pm

The pink bunny it is then ...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pJAjb2GYHIM

... cheers Mark

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Re: Post pictures of your beeb setup

Postby Elminster » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:51 pm

Like Mark I rate energiser better than Duracell. I think the last which? Survey did as well. Recharable duracell are even worse. Don't hold charge at all.


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