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Archimedes 30th birthday?

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:09 pm
by steve3000
I've not been on the forum as much recently (work overload) but did I miss the big 30th birthday celebrations for the Archi? \:D/

I don't actually know when the first Archimedes shipped to a paying customer, but Arthur 0.3 reports "17 Jun 1987" on startup, and I know that I had extensively used (well...played Zarch on...!) an Archimedes A310 or A305 at a friend's house before we left Ireland in August 1987... So the first Archi's were definitely out and about by then. :)

Arthur030 17Jun1987.png

Happy birthday Archi !!!

Re: Archimedes 30th birthday?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:24 am
by topcat96
According to Archimedes wkii, the first models were initially released in June 1987, as the 300 and 400 series. However, four other models were then released a month later with minor changes and upgrades. They were the A305, A310, A310M, A410 and A440, with the latter having 4mb RAM and a 20mb HD as standard.

So you're only a month late for the 300/400 celebrations #-o

We forgive you though 8)

Re: Archimedes 30th birthday?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:27 am
by steve3000
topcat96 wrote:According to Archimedes wkii, the first models were initially released in June 1987, as the 300 and 400 series. However, four other models were then released a month later with minor changes and upgrades. They were the A305, A310, A310M, A410 and A440, with the latter having 4mb RAM and a 20mb HD as standard.

So you're only a month late for the 300/400 celebrations #-o

We forgive you though 8)

Be careful with wikis, they're not always correct - the A305, A310 and A440 were the first computers of the "300 and 400 series". But there was never an actual archi called a 300 or a 400. #-o :)

Re: Archimedes 30th birthday?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:42 am
by RobC
Still vividly remember buying the August 1987 Micro User with the review of the Arc on a school trip to Alton Towers! It's one of the few magazines that I've kept. This was in the last couple of weeks of term so must have been around 30 years ago (where did the time go? :shock:)

Didn't get to see one in the flesh until an A310 arrived in the Swansea Microstore a month or so later. Didn't get my own until 1990.

I've owned lots of Arcs over the years and still love them - a truly wonderful machine and a worthy successor to the Beeb.

Re: Archimedes 30th birthday?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:00 am
by vanpeebles
The first ones I used were RO2 A3000s in 1990 :D

Re: Archimedes 30th birthday?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:14 am
by topcat96
steve3000 wrote:Be careful with wikis, they're not always correct - the A305, A310 and A440 were the first computers of the "300 and 400 series". But there was never an actual archi called a 300 or a 400. #-o :)


That's why I called it a "series" and not actual machines :D

Re: Archimedes 30th birthday?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:28 am
by davidb
Did anyone ever see an original A410 or was it dropped from the initial line-up?

Re: Archimedes 30th birthday?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:06 pm
by steve3000
davidb wrote:Did anyone ever see an original A410 or was it dropped from the initial line-up?

The only place I've ever seen an A410 (not an A410/1) is in this video from 1987, at 3m53s.

Ok, you can't actually read the label because it's too out of focus, but given the situation, I can't imagine it said anything other than "A410".

So on that basis, at least one A410 computer did exist, even though it may well have been upgraded, re-badged and sold as an A440 shortly after... Whether any A410s made it into the wild, I don't know...

Re: Archimedes 30th birthday?

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:42 am
by SteveBagley
Thanks for the tip-off -- hope we did it justice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh7kpkwXnwA

Steve

Re: Archimedes 30th birthday?

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:07 am
by jgharston
What's the difference between the 3-series and the 4-series?

In Hong Kong the A440 I used had the '4' manually written on the label. ;)

Re: Archimedes 30th birthday?

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 am
by steve3000
jgharston wrote:What's the difference between the 3-series and the 4-series?

Different pcb.

4x0 series had ST506 interface onboard (and A440 came with a hdd), high res mono output hardware (1152x896) with two bnc connectors for output, built-in 4 slot backplane and either 4mb fitted (A440) or sockets for up to 4mb. Also came with a very noisy fan fitted.

3x0 had no hdd interface, optional 2 slot (Acorn) backplane, only standard mono video via phono plug, and official max of 1mb RAM (soon exceeded by 3rd parties). No fan fitted as standard.

The most obvious difference though was that 3 series had red function keys on the keyboard.

Re: Archimedes 30th birthday?

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:11 pm
by SarahWalker
Isn't it the same PCB with different options fitted? At least between the A3xx and the original A440. I remember my 310 definitely having room for the hard disc controller. I think it also had something like 'UNIVERSAL BOARD' written on it somewhere.

The A4xx/1 was a different board.

Re: Archimedes 30th birthday?

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:43 pm
by steve3000
SteveBagley wrote:Thanks for the tip-off -- hope we did it justice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh7kpkwXnwA

Steve

Absolutely spot on! Great video. =D>