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Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:35 pm

Just taken a look at the few discs I have which contain alternative versions of BBC games.
Some have pre-release versions, other have re-released versions and others have things like different loading screens and game sounds etc.

I have been through the discs and re-mastered the games the same way I have done the main discs.

I have added some inlay instructions to a few (where there was space).

Here is Alternative Disc001 remastered in a 400k image.

AltD001.zip
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Joust would be released Skirmish.
Defender would be re-released as Planetoid.
Sinistar would be released as Deathstar.
Amidar would be released as Crazy Painter.
Star Swarm would be released as Tetrapod.
Elecro Freddy would be re-released as Uncle Claude.
R*Ther would be released as Bouncer.

EDIT: Disc re-posted due to *KEY issues with Sinistar, Roboman, Crystal Castles and Felix and the Weevils.
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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:31 pm

Here is Alternative Disc002 remastered in a 400k image.

AltD002.zip
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Gorph was released as Gorf,
Blockman became Danger UXB.
Chess by Superior was also released by Computer Concepts.
Arcadia was released as Wet Zone.
Carnival was released as Carousel.
Alien Destroyers II was released as Electron Invaders.
Quest For Freedom was released on the BBC as The Last Of The Free.

Mick.

EDIT: Disc re-posted due to *KEY issues with Gorph, Blockman, Challenger, Dogfight, Arcadia, Ultron, Citadel, Quest For Freedom and Birdie Barrage.
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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:55 am

Here is Alternative Disc003 remastered in a 400k image.

AltD003.zip
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Bandits by Oak was also released by Deskflair.
Sitting Target was also released as React.
Killer Gorilla 2 was originally released as Zany Kong Jr.
Cylon Invasion was originally released as Space Station Alpha.
Bozo The Brave was originally released as Zorakk The Conqueror.
Space Commander Test was released as Galactic Commander.

Mick.

EDIT: Disc re-posted due to *KEY issues with Frankenstein 2000, Repton 2 and Nightmare Maze.
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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:51 am

Here is Alternative Disc004 remastered in a 400k image.

AltD004.zip
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Rock Run also released as Boulder Crash.
Santa's Delivery was originally released as Merry Xmas Santa.
Bomb-Run also released as Detonator Dan.
Garden was released as Growing Pains.
Force Field also released as Space City.
Trek II was originally released as Warp-1.


Mick.

EDIT: Disc re-posted due to *KEY issues with Diamond Mine, Phantom Combat, Pandemonium and Star Maze.
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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:54 am

Here is Alternative Disc005 remastered in a 400k image.

AltD005.zip
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Locomotion was also released as Loony Loco.
Pro Boxing was also released as By Fair Means Or Foul.
Defender was released as Guardian on the Acorn Electron.
Bomb-Squad was yet another alternative title for Detonator Dan.

Mick.

EDIT: Disc re-posted due to *KEY issues with Mr Wiz!, Video's Revenge, Castle Assault, Defender and Network.

EDIT: Disc re-posted due to amending Defender/Guardian to run a bit faster.
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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:59 am

Here is Alternative Disc006 remastered in a 400k image.

AltD006.zip
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Golf was originally released as Birdie Barrage.
Joust was a re-issue of the Atarisoft version.
Catapilla was also released as Wiggles.
Crazy Fruit was also released as Las Vegas.
Monster Mash was also released as Monstermania.
Centipede was released as Caterpillar.
Death Stars was also released as Plasma Bolt.
Chopper II was a modified version of Defender/Planetoid.

Mick.

EDIT: Disc re-posted due to *KEY issues with Golf, Monster Mash, Zany Kong, Yoyo, Fortreess and Mr. Do!.
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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby leenew » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:24 pm

Happy new year!!
I have checked these 6 discs on BeebEm only (not on the real beeb), but I have found a few instructions issues...

DISC1

PYRAMID page 2 "Pharos chamber" should probably be "Pharaoh's chamber".

CRYSTAL CASTLES could we have one more space before "Atarisoft presents" to make it more central? :D

DISC2
OK

DISC3

COMMANDO "strong holds" should be "strongholds"

SITTING TARGET needs a space after the full stop "Service.Speed on the button"
and a space after the comma "you must only shoot aliens,you receive 100 points"
** This is the same on DISC048
If these are the original instructions you may want to leave them as they are?

DISC4

LUNAR JETMAN Is the "HR" in the corner od the screen original?
Also, at the bottom of the screen, it says"Press RETURN or SPACE to continue"
It is not clear that pressing SPACE loads the game, but pressing RETURN gives more info.

FORCE FIELD "GOODLUCK" should be "GOOD LUCK"

DISC5

BOMB SQUAD "defusd" should be "defused"

SENTINEL "( the on standing on the tower )" should be "( the one standing on the tower )"

DISC6

Wongo "most be negotiated" should be "must be negotiated".

Lee.

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:45 pm

Hi Lee,
Happy new year!

I will take a look at these during the next few days.

However,
The word pharos is taken from the Crypt Capers instuctions which was taken from the inlay and is spelt like that in the Crypt Capers main game.

The Atarisoft presents is also the same as all Atari loaders and some of their other titles also don't line up right.

The instructions for Lunar Jetman are the same ones as some of the other Ultimate games. It is an easter egg that pressing return brings the info.

otherwise, I will amend them asap.

regards,
Mick.

PS I am hoping to complete a 7th Alternative titles disc asap.
Does anyone have the following 2 titles?

Brickmaster by Acornsoft
and
Blagger V2 from the PIAS 12 compilation.

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby leenew » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:53 pm

Yep, always alter them at your discretion Mick. I am just pointing stuff out that I noticed.
I actually DID check these discs on the real beeb before they were remastered and the only thing I noticed was the "PIRATE COPY" notice on Joust, which it doesn't say anymore (but still does on the STH disc).

Cheers,

Lee.

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:21 pm

Hi Lee,
I have re-edited alt discs 003-006 and re-posted them above.

regards,
Mick.

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby leenew » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:05 pm

Cheers Mick, all checked OK.
Just a point to note that REACT on disc 048 still has the original instructions, so you could use the new tidied ones from SITTING TARGET if you want.

Also, did you see my note about the "HR" in the corner of the LUNAR JETMAN screen? compare it to the one on DISC023.....

Cheers,

Lee.

ps check your email :D

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby leenew » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:12 pm

By the way, what is Brick master? I can't find any info on it...... It's not the "Breakout" game from the "fun games" Compilation is it?
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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:23 pm

Hi Lee,
Brickmaster from Acornsoft is another copy of Plegaron People/Brick em' in.

As for the HR in Lunar Jetman. That is on the alternate loading screen, but I do not know what it means.
React on disc 048 was amended some time back. As with both versions there is one line of text that cannot be expanded due to space issues.

regards,
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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby leenew » Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:11 pm

Hi Mick,
As I have mentioned in the "master games" thread, what about a couple of discs with all the Master enhanced Games on? It seems there weren't that many!
Lee.

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:04 pm

Hi Lee,

I may take a look at the idea of Master games at some point.

Mick.

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby leenew » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:26 pm

Mick,
Checked Discs alt05 and alt06 on the real beeb.
A05 is fine.
On A06, DTRAP needs to be on for MONSTER MASH ( D needed on menu...)
PUCKMAN version of SNAPPER has control problems.
If you let go of the controls it wants to go up and left by itself...... IT IS FINE ON BEEBEM.....

Cheers,

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:07 am

Hi Lee,
I have just re-posted altdisc006.
I had forgotten to remove a jmp routine for the MONS??? file that real hardware doesn't seem to like. I had to the same with Web-War, Woks et al.

Not able to test on a real beeb myself, but hopefully Monster Mash is OK now.

As for Snapper (Puckman), I think it has a joystick utility added and it sometimes goes wild in BeebEm.

Has anyone got a better/different copy of this?

Mick.

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Pernod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:15 pm

Michael Brown wrote:Has anyone got a better/different copy of this?

Take a look at mine:
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=5227&p=48260#p48259
It's listed as Snapper v1.

There's also two alt. versions of Defender on there, and Aviator with blue sky.
- Nigel

BBC Model B, ATPL Sidewise, Acorn Speech, 2xWatford Floppy Drives, AMX Mouse, Viglen case, etc.

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby leenew » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:29 pm

Hi,
@Mick - I can confirm Monstermania is fixed.
@Pernod - I can also confirm that your version of Snapper V1 behaves itself on my beeb.

Should be a simple swap Mick :D

Lee.

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:41 am

Hi Lee,
thanks for testing Monster Mash.

I have replaced the version of Snapper on altdisc06 with the PIAS re-issue of Snapper V2 as Pernod's version is the same as my V1 on altdisc01.

I don't remember where the Puckman version originated, but it seems faulty so I have got rid of it for now.

Thanks anyway pernod for the disc.
BTW I have copied your Free Fall loader off your Acornsoft disc and added to my altdisc04 and re-posted it above.

thanks.

PS I have found a lovely loader for Blagger V2 which features on my altdisc07. However, it looks like it is for the Electron version of PIAS 12 and not the beeb as it is mode 2 and looks like something Dave E may have created for his AEW discs.

I am sure the BBC version of PIAS 12 has a mode 5 loader (like most other re-issued games on their comps). Does anyone have a copy?

regards,
Mick.

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby billcarr2005 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:20 am

Michael Brown wrote:I am sure the BBC version of PIAS 12 has a mode 5 loader (like most other re-issued games on their comps). Does anyone have a copy?


I've checked both the 40 and 80 track versions of PIAS 12 and neither of them have a loader screen for Blagger... it just loads straight onto the MODE7 instructions screen.

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby leenew » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:23 am

Hi Mick,
Are you sure Pernod's version of SNAPPER v1 is the same, as that version controls as it should on my beeb but it looks like your version is getting joystick input or something that is making it go up/right by itself.
Also, the version on the STH disc AC1 works fine on my machine.
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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:41 pm

Thanks Bill for the PIAS12 info on Blagger.

Hi Lee,
I believe there was a keyboard-joystick utility added to the Puckman version of Snapper as the original pacman version seems to keyboard only.
It obviously didn't work, so I have removed it. However, If at some point I can get it to work properly (when I get my actual Beeb up and running again), then I may add it to a further set of alternative discs as it does have the escape and pause facilities that none of the other versions have.

Mick.

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:22 am

Here is Alternative Disc007 remastered in a 400k image.

AltD007.zip
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Frenzy and Bumble Bee have their Electron Loaders.
Psycastria and Sphere of Destiny are the tape versions.
Tycoon was also released as Pass Go.
Spectapede is the mis-spelt original release of the game that should have been called Spectipede.
Maze Muncher also released as Pacman.
Kamikaze was released as Planes on the BBC Micro.
Elite is the tape version.

Mick.

EDIT: Disc re-posted due to *KEY issues with Wallaby, Deathstar and Bruce Lee.
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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:27 pm

Alt Disc008 coming soon!
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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:44 pm

Here is Alternative Disc008 remastered in a 400k image.

AltD008.zip
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Scoffer was released as Gnasher.
Space Ace was released as 3D Space Raiders.
Space Blaster was released as Cosmic Camouflage.
Syncron is a modified 'slowed down' version making it easier to play.
Row Of Four is a BBC only version and also released as a duel BBC/Electron game.
Cutter was released as Chopper.
Subway Vigilante has an alternative background from the original release.
Caterpillar Bill is also known as simply Caterpillar.
Froggy would also be released as Frogger.

Mick.

EDIT: Disc re-posted due to *KEY issues with Space Blaster, Syncron, Row Of Four, Subway Vigilante and Inertia.
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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:09 pm

Here is Alternative Disc009 remastered in a 400k image.

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Duck Shoot was released as Duck!
Powerboat Racing is actually the original tape version which is Joystick controlled only.
Spy Hunter is the original tape version without the speech.
Darts is the Blue Ribbon re-issue of the MRM original.
Alien 8 contains a different loader.

Mick.

EDIT: Disc re-posted due to *KEY issues with Raid Over Moscow, Duck Shoot, Breakthrough, Guardian, Spy vs Spy and Alien 8.

EDIT: Disc re-posted due to amending Guardian to run a bit faster and closer to its original Electron speed.
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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:04 pm

Just re-posted Alt discs001-009 due to *KEY issues.

regards,
Mick.
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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:37 pm

OK Finally... here it is...
Here is Alternative Disc010 remastered in a 400k image.

AltD010.zip
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Clogger is the demo version from a Impact disc.
Startrek was also released by R H Software.
Killa is the Killer Gorilla upgrade program.
Mastermind was also released by Logic Systems.
Danger Mower was also released as Crazy Cut.
Star Raider was released as 3D Space Ranger.
Grid Cycles was also released as Laser Cycles.
Spitfire Simulation was released as Spitfire Flight Sim.

*KEY issues with Clogger, Paradox, Paranoid Pete, Spitfire Simulation and Time Lords have been sorted.

Mick.

PS This looks like it may be the very last Alternative disc.
However, watch this space, as I have a new demo disc with games like Galaga and Space Panic on it.
Well they are Zalaga and Monsters altered, but it is just for fun.
I will post it soon!

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Re: Alternative titles discs (remastered)

Postby Michael Brown » Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:03 pm

OK... As promised...
Here is Original Arcade Titles Games Disc 001.

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This disc demonstrates what the 18 games could have looked like if they had been released under licence from the original Arcade companies.

However, because they weren't...

Pac-Man became Snapper
Donkey Kong became Killer Gorilla
Marble Madness became Gyroscope
Missile Command became Missile Control
Space Panic became Monsters
Check Man became Blockman and then became Danger U.X.B.
Gorfon was released as Ultron
Asteroids became Meteors
Phoenix became Eagle Empire
Qix became Kix
Galaxian became Arcadians
Galaga became Zalaga
Dig Dug became The Mine
Zaxxon became Fortress
Scramble became Rocket Raid
Centipede became Bug Blaster
Mr. Do! became Mr Ee!
Q*bert became Bouncer

Although Superior actually released their own version of Q*bert, I still think Bouncer was a closer version.

I hope you enjoy these.
Remember - This is just for fun. No copyright infringement is intended.

You never know, another disc load may pop along at some point.

Enjoy!
Mick.


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