Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

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Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby CMcDougall » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:51 pm

Uggies Garden - Superior / Acornsoft - Tape UEFhq

Received the copy from DaveE 8) , as DaveM lost the original after it was copied... [-X
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works on BeebEm414 but not bEm22 :? & GOTO60 after err...

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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby vanekp » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:23 pm

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Seems this uef is not 100% I see a lot of non standard block in-between not sure if you have the original wav file but the conversion to uef is not good.
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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby CMcDougall » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:00 pm

What version of beebEm414 you using??
works perfect on my windows10 lappy & winXP desktop
if it did not work, would not of uploaded it :roll:
Yes still got the WAV I made, but useless & does not load to real beeb...
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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby vanekp » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:19 pm

I though that as well but though I would mention that it did not work and am using BeebEm ver.4.14 Feb 2012.
Am also runnig it on Windows 10, have just tried it on my laptop with the same result.
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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby CMcDougall » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:40 pm

how the hell do you think I got the loader screen up in first post...... :lol:
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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby vanekp » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:58 pm

I am as confused as you are as to why it does not work.
This is what I get on a cat :-
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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby RobC » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:19 pm

Works for me in BeebEm but only if I set the tape speed to "Fast".

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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby vanekp » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:24 pm

Ahhhh did not try that as I only ever have mine on normal and change the cpu speed to speed up loading..... will give it a go.
Yip then it work if you have tape speed set to fast. Thanks for the tip.

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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby CMcDougall » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:37 pm

vanekp wrote:Yip then it work if you have tape speed set to fast. Thanks for the tip.

& thank you, think this tape has now opened up another can of worms with tape reading on BeebEm414.....
as, usually, bEm22 will read them much better, so this has thrown my thinking out the window.

so, if it can't read it at Normal tape speed, but with Fast, it's usually the other way about :-k
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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby vanekp » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:44 pm

Yes there are some funnies in BeeEm for example :- when it comes to tapes, if you create a .uef tape in BeebEm you can't read it in B-Em :wink:

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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby CMcDougall » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:57 pm

the CSW or the WAV did not read into the beta Alpha bEm22, which I also tried as was having alot of bother trying to get archived.

but, least no more of this :
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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby vanekp » Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:00 pm

LOL
O I noticed that you are missing Scr11, on the disc version that I have it does have a Scr11.
If you don't process the wav file correctly you can have a lot of problem converting it into a usable csw and/or uef file.

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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby CMcDougall » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:11 pm

vanekp wrote:O I noticed that you are missing Scr11, on the disc version that I have it does have a Scr11.

just checked .WAV to beeb, and Scr11 does not exist on the tape at all, ie Straight from 10 then 12.
I don't know history of this original tape at all, or could be like the disc, unreleased, DaveM/E can verify :?
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nothing wrong with my .WAV, I don't have a £3k program for nothing you know, to generate vinyl that gets pressed =;
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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby vanekp » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:08 pm

okay just still find it odd that Beeb-Em will not read it at standard speed.

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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby CMcDougall » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:37 pm

you & me both,
if I had emulator at Normal tape speed, would be pulling my grey side hair out by now, & no UEF :|
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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby Dave_E » Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:53 pm

Ah, I may be able to explain this...

So, back in the day when I was collecting Acorn Electron stuff, and there was no real internet, and EUG was a post-only magazine that I would duplicate and send by snail mail blah blah...

I got the unreleased tape of Uggie's Garden and I thought hey up this looks to be pretty rare, I'd better copy it.

BUT...

I didn't do tape-to-tape.

I used a utility called Turbocon for the Acorn Electron. This loads in a file and saves it in a "turboed" format.

I used to have cassettes called 'Turbocomps' with all the games in my collection - they would load in about 50% of the time.

Hence, this is what I did with the Uggie's Garden tape - loaded it into Turbocon and saved it to the blank cassette. I recall sending Dave M the original about 10 years later but it was somehow misplaced.

Fast-forward another 20 years and I was looking for a cassette to send Castaway to Col and I just picked up one of the old C90s which I have no real use for now I do all my gaming via emulation. I copied Castaway to Side A, overwriting what was on there already. I noticed Uggie's Garden was on Side B so I said "Hey, Col, you could also preserve Uggie's Garden as well if you want."

So that's probably why it's "non-standard".

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Re: Uggies Garden - Superior /Acornsoft -Tape Original

Postby vanekp » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:07 pm

and Uggies Garden is missing the Scr11 file, if you type the password METRES it goes and searches for Scr11 which is not on the tape.
Here is a recreated UEF which also works on B-em and BeebEm (at normal tape speed :wink: ) and has the screen 11 included.

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