ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby jgharston » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:46 pm

IanS wrote:We have (slightly edited) name badges.
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All these forum identities. I'm too boring to be able to think up an alias like that. Maybe TubeClient or mdfs or something. But then, I'd forget what my alias was when trying to log on.

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby Arcadian » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:04 pm

Hi all

Currently here with Ian S, Dave H, Phill HS, Kees + Wim.

We'll be leaving "Acorn HQ" at 8:15 (i.e. in 15 mins) and heading to Frankie and Benny's for 20:30, where we'll likely hang around till 9:30-9:45pm.

So if anybody travelling down tonight thinks they'll arrive in sufficient time to join us then feel free to pop in!

Address: The Valley, Watersmeeting Road, Bolton, BL1 8TS
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby hoglet » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:32 pm

Hi Guys,

What time will things kick-off tomorrow morning?

I'm staying with my parents ~30 mins away.

Dave

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby Arcadian » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:55 pm

Hi Dave. We should be on site from 9am ...
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby Arcadian » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:57 pm

Cheers!

And a big welcome to WIM! His first ABug meet and first ever trip to the UK too! :)
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby BeebMaster » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:35 pm

Looking forward to being there tomorrow. Just laying out my kit to check that nothing still works...
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby flibble » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:26 pm

Couldn't make it to Bolton, did make it to Margate instead :)

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby roland » Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:46 am

Hi guys,

Have fun in Bolton today. I'm thinking about you all day and I pretend to be happy not to be there because the weather here is sooooo nice and sunny :mrgreen:


I'm looking forward to some pictures!

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby Multiwizard » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:41 am

Arcadian wrote:Cheers!

And a big welcome to WIM! His first ABug meet and first ever trip to the UK too! :)

Thanks for the warm welcome, I'm really enjoying meself... :D


Greetings, wim... :-)
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby Prime » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:44 am

Just up and showered, should be there in the next half an hour.

Cheers.

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby Arcadian » Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:59 pm

Today's panoramas!
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby tricky » Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:13 pm

I'm really missing being there, but here is a short video of what I have been up to.

http://youtu.be/4V0yIFhkXB0
In case anyone is wondering how I captured the video, here is my "rig".
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and yes, the lamp and box are integral to the design ;)

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby jgharston » Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:46 pm

PDP-11 second processor!!!!

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Next stop, seperate Kernel/User space and Unix 7th Edition!

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby Prime » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:35 pm

And back home, had an excellent time as normal.

See you all next time.

Cheers.

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby IanS » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:09 pm

Here are a few pics from the weekend, apolgies if they don't meet Dave's exacting standards. I've gone for the "as-it-happened" view.

Great to see everyone again, and nice to see a few new faces.
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Just like a real Pinball machine.
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Dave in the corner with an Electron, as usual.
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I think Colin forgot he didn't have a fag on the go.
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The Econet bench.
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby sPhilMainwaring » Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:40 pm

Great Pics Ian ... saw you running back in for your coat!

To echo Prime, et al. great time as usual and lovely to see everyone "old" and new :)

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby Arcadian » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:51 am

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby Multiwizard » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:29 pm

Hi guys,

I am glad I have finally been able to visit the UK after all those years, I really loved my stay... :D

I also was pleased to see how much passion there still is for the Acorn hobby, so much knowledge in one room, beautiful... :P =D>

I like to thank you all for being so, how should I call it,, :-k be yourself, a wonderful group, thanks to let me be a part of this... :D

I know, it sound probably to soft hearted (again)... :oops:

It will probably get hard for me to come next year but I will do my best, I really felt myself at ease in the UK... 8)

Below some of the pictures...


Greetings, Wim... :-)
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I was sure the SD card of my camera was empty when I left home...
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Arrived in Bolton...
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Overall #1...
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Colin, Mark and Jason were thinking intensively...
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Phil, Colin and Ian and Dave...
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Taking a little break...
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Colin was looking for Higher places...
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Some nice Tea...
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby Multiwizard » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:30 pm

The last Three pictures... 8)
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Dragon's Lair...
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Had some delicious Mac hamburgers...

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby roland » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:05 pm

At last ... a picture of Mrs Multiwizard :lol:
Nice comments! Thank you all for the pictures.
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby oss003 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:14 pm

So ........ maybe next year Roland????
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby CMcDougall » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:00 pm

Had a fabby time meeting new & old faces :D 8) , but hated the 3+hour wait for my dinner on Friday night :x
some pics:
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^Dave lost his hat....
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^Ian nearly drunk the off wine...
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^Everybody wondered where Gary put the paint brush for the undercoat on wall..
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^Phil & Kees found a paintbrush with sound..
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^Ian found an old in-build cheat on his favourite atom pinball game.

Wicked fun =D> =D> =D>
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby firthmj » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:51 pm

Was good to finally get to an Acorn event this year!

Not sure how I look quite so spaced out in Dave's group photo - I was totally sober, honest! :-)
Had fun at the
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby BeebMaster » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:48 pm

Just to reassure everyone about the "16K" BBC B which arrived in 2001, which spontaneously combusted after basking in the Bolton sunshine. It had its X2 caps replaced in Bolton, but we didn't get any further on investigating the 16K fault because the video sync had gone.

Well, after re-flowing the solder points on the RGB connector this afternoon to no avail, and then reading the service manual I noticed the video sync link S31 was empty! It's supposed to be jumpered, so I fitted a jumper West and it brought the picture back! I don't know how or when that happened!

Then with the help of these threads:

http://www.stardot.org.uk/forums/viewto ... f=3&t=5089
http://www.stardot.org.uk/forums/viewto ... 05&start=0

I built a little S25 inverter with a 74LS04 I had lying about, so I could boot it up as a 32K machine but with screen corruption, and running the little "&4000" RAM test and getting result 2, I calculated that this meant faulty RAM IC62. A root round a box of spare chips originally from my 2003 Greatest Find, I piggy backed an 8118 over it and whack-o, it's fixed!

Only took me 14 years !
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby flaxcottage » Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:46 pm

Well done that man! :D :D
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby Prime » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:09 pm

BeebMaster wrote:Well, after re-flowing the solder points on the RGB connector this afternoon to no avail, and then reading the service manual I noticed the video sync link S31 was empty! It's supposed to be jumpered, so I fitted a jumper West and it brought the picture back! I don't know how or when that happened!


It happens easy enough when a machine is moved about can get knocked off, or fall off due to vibration etc.

A root round a box of spare chips originally from my 2003 Greatest Find, I piggy backed an 8118 over it and whack-o, it's fixed!


Ideally you should consider the piggy-back as a temporary fix, and replace the dead chip with a socket and a replacement....

Heheh time yo get yourself a solder sucker :) :)

Cheers.

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby daveejhitchins » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:27 am

As the chip is dead . . . Cut it out then remove each pin then use your solder sucker or better still, de-solder braid! Solder suckers can remove pads, if your not careful!

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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby BeebMaster » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:23 am

Yes, I will be replacing the chip, I reckon I can probably do that sort of thing nowadays.

I do have a solder sucker but I'm sure it's the cheapest and nastiest one available, I must have bought it 10 or more years ago when I knew even less than I do now. I've never actually removed any solder with it, nothing ever seems to happen apart from dislocating my thumb every time I click the spring.

Instead I have a roll of solder braid, I can operate that and it works pretty well. Yesterday as a sort of primer I noticed two very shabby looking 2114s in my box of spare bits and used the braid to clean off the manky solder off all the pins, they're looking like new now!
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby BeebMaster » Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:53 pm

Well, I reckon I have excelled myself (starting from a very low base of very low expectations), not only have I replaced the chip, but it still works!

Although, it was looking pretty ropy at the start...
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But with a little bit of this..
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And a little bit of this...
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It cleaned up very nicely.
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Then I put in an 8118
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and 32K comes to life!
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I'm wondering whether I'm brave enough to treat it to Econet...
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Re: ABug Mini, Aug 22/23, Bolton (Atom & Electron+BBC)

Postby daveejhitchins » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:02 pm

BeebMaster wrote:Well, I reckon I have excelled myself (starting from a very low base of very low expectations), not only have I replaced the chip, but it still works!
=D> =D> =D> =D>

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