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Greetings!

Postby torrind » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:43 pm

Hi All,

Long time listener, first time caller.

So this happens to be the first time I've ever joined a forum. Dug out my trusty Beeb recently, added a Turbo MMC and I'm away :D

Looking for other Beeb related projects at the mo. I'm looking at getting a Raspberry Pi Zero enabled second co-proc for the Beeb and wonder if any of you have had any experience with them? are they any good?

The reason being is that I want to run a full version of COBOL on it (CIS??) (not just the small 32k version I'm running at the moment). If I can find a copy that is.

Anyway, great to join the forum and look forward to being a productive member of society!

Darren

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Postby davidb » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:49 pm

Welcome! :D

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Postby tricky » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:54 pm

Welcome and good timing, keep an eye in this thread for your CoPro.
I have a City and Guilds in COBOL (with distinction - I think) but have never used it since :?

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Postby CMcDougall » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:55 pm

welcome Darren :)

first time to join a forum ever... :shock: good place to start here!
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Postby Multiwizard » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:24 am

Hey Darren,

welcome to this great Forum... :D


Greetings from my little Dutch Acorn Attic, Wim... :-)

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Postby danielj » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:36 am

Hi Darren, Welcome!

There should be digital copies of CIS COBOL knocking about. If you're looking for ways to get it on to actual media I'm sure the collective we can get you fixed up :)

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Postby daveejhitchins » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:07 am

Darren, Welcome to the Forum . . . Enjoy . . .

Good luck with your COBOL project.

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Postby martinw » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:29 pm

Welcome Darren :D

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Postby flaxcottage » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:29 pm

Welcome, Darren. :D
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Postby DutchAcorn » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:23 pm

Welcome Darren! Enjoy Stardot! :D
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Postby roland » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:37 pm

Welcome Darren,

You've made a good choice to join this forum. Enjoy your visits here.

Greetings from the south of the Netherlands,
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Postby oss003 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:05 am

Hi Darren,

welcome and enjoy the forum ....

Greetings
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Re: Greetings!

Postby torrind » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:40 pm

Thanks All for your kind welcome - most appreciated.

I have now installed the PiTubeDirect and I have to say, it works perfectly.

I have unfortunately not been able to source a co-pro version of COBOL for the BEEB despite much trawling!

Can any of you good folk help please? I'm happy to pay if I have to!

Thanks

Darren

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Re: Greetings!

Postby hoglet » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:19 pm

torrind wrote:I have unfortunately not been able to source a co-pro version of COBOL for the BEEB despite much trawling!

The CIS Cobol disk is linked here:
http://www.g7jjf.com/acornz80_disc_images.htm

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Re: Greetings!

Postby torrind » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:07 pm

Dave,

You're a star! thank you :D

A virtual pint is on its way to you!


Darren

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Re: Greetings!

Postby torrind » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:23 pm

OK so I've hit another brick wall and each turn decends me into dead / broken / out of date internet links and im pulling my hair out.

So it appears that the CIS COBOL dsd file is a 410k (sequential / interleaved) disk file (can't remember now which is which) apparently I need to convert this into two 200k ssd's so I can load them into Turno MMC and read them as separate disk images.

How do I do this? I've managed to find a DOS DSDTOSSD program but this only creates a single 200k ssd and not a second. I get a tantalising link to a DSD splitter prog which can do this, but the URL is dead!

Any help fellas?

I'm hoping that after all this taking, I'll be able to give at some point #-o

BigBig Thanks

Darren

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Postby lurkio » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:55 pm

torrind wrote:... the CIS COBOL dsd file is a 410k ... disk file ... apparently I need to convert this into two 200k ssd's so I can load them into Turno MMC and read them as separate disk images ... How do I do this?

There's a menu item in DFS Imager that can split a .DSD into two .SSDs:

:idea:

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Re: Greetings!

Postby torrind » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:27 pm

Thanks Lurkio - Worked a treat!

Merry Christmas!

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Re: Greetings!

Postby torrind » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:40 pm

Hi Folks,

Just another update on my CIS COBOL journey.

I finally managed to get CP/M 2.2 running and can now execute CIS COBOL v4.5 properly, using RetroClinics Datacentre to handle the assorted DSD and SSD disk images via *DTRAP (for those in the know! :lol: )

As always when I get so far, I come to this forum for help. Does anyone know how I can get hold of the accompanying User Manual for this version of COBOL?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. It goes without saying that if there happens to be anyone out there who wants to run CP/M and or COBOL but needs a little help, I'll be happy to oblige.

Thank you all for your help and support and I hope you all have a great New Year!!

Darren

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Re: Greetings!

Postby hoglet » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:48 am

Hi Darren,
torrind wrote:As always when I get so far, I come to this forum for help. Does anyone know how I can get hold of the accompanying User Manual for this version of COBOL?

I don't believe a scan of the CIS Cobol manuals exists. The best (but incomplete) collection is here:
http://www.g7jjf.com/acornz80_manuals.htm

Several people have copies though, so it might be possible to get one scanned:
viewtopic.php?p=48923#p48923

In the mean time, are these any use?
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ ... nix/cobol/

Dave

Edit:

CJE has one of them for £10:
http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/indiv ... O-CCAFUGSH

and AbeBooks has the other (actually, maybe both of them):
https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Search ... &kn=&isbn=

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Re: Greetings!

Postby torrind » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:30 pm

Thanks Dave.


Yes some of your links are most helpful and I'll be following up on the Abebooks route.

Whilst these books are what I appear to be looking for (and I'm not too much of a novice of COBOL in general), I AM a complete novice on using the basics of CIS COBOL.

I can get as far as running 'COBOL' and typing in lines of code which are accepted or not depending upon my spelling :), but as its at the command line, I don't know the keys / commands to use inside the compiler to exit the code and save it etc, so I'm actually looking for a very basic CIS-COBOL user guide!

If anyone can help here with the basics, I'd be grateful. Thank you.

Darren


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