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Postby sgb27 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:30 pm

I had an A3010 back in the day, did a fair bit of programming on it. I had a handful of programs in Acorn User (*info), taught myself the BASIC assembler and made a game similar to high risc racing (same concept, but worse!).

Anyway, the A3010 got put up in the loft - at some point I managed to copy most of the hard drive via the serial link to a PC and got it running on an emulator. Recently though I've unboxed the A3010 again, cleaned it all up (lots of rust, yellow plastic and a duff battery) and amazingly it still works! Well the hard drive doesn't work. It spins up but I get "disc error" when trying to access it. I've tried one of those IDE<>SD card interfaces, it appears to format ok but I get the same disc error so I'm thinking there's something wrong with the PowerTec IDE interface in there.

The problem is I have a huge number of floppies I want to get loaded in, and ideally copied over to the PC for ease of backup and future storage. Need to figure out a way to do that as currently I have no way to get files off or on to the A3010 (none of my PCs have floppy drives!).

Oh one thing I have done which I'm not sure anyone else has done but might be useful, is wire up an Arduino to read a normal USB mouse and output the correct signals to make the A3010 think it's a normal quadrature mouse. It works perfectly, and the A3010 seems to be able to give enough power on the 5V line to power the whole thing (mouse + arduino)! This was by necessity as I had lost the two Acorn mice I had. If anyone wants details give me a shout.

No doubt I'll be back with more questions/stories when I get time!

Back to the emulator for now to try and remember how RISC OS works :-)

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Re: Hello everyone

Postby daveejhitchins » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:40 pm

Welcome to the Forum, sgb27 . . . Enjoy . . .

Hope you get your storage sorted out . . .

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Postby tricky » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:47 pm

Welcome.

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Postby Multiwizard » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:04 pm

Hi,

welcome to this great Forum... :D


Greetings from my little Dutch Acorn Attic, Wim... :-)

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Postby davidb » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:07 pm

Welcome! :D

sgb27 wrote:The problem is I have a huge number of floppies I want to get loaded in, and ideally copied over to the PC for ease of backup and future storage. Need to figure out a way to do that as currently I have no way to get files off or on to the A3010 (none of my PCs have floppy drives!).

Once you have an IDE-SD card set up, I suppose the next step would be to use a disk imager on the A3010 to create .adf files for copying onto the SD card. Otherwise, some kind of serial or parallel transfer solution might be a possibility.

Good luck!

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Postby Elminster » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:57 pm

Welcome to the forum.

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Postby sgb27 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:10 pm

davidb wrote:Welcome! :D

sgb27 wrote:The problem is I have a huge number of floppies I want to get loaded in, and ideally copied over to the PC for ease of backup and future storage. Need to figure out a way to do that as currently I have no way to get files off or on to the A3010 (none of my PCs have floppy drives!).

Once you have an IDE-SD card set up, I suppose the next step would be to use a disk imager on the A3010 to create .adf files for copying onto the SD card. Otherwise, some kind of serial or parallel transfer solution might be a possibility.

Good luck!

Thanks everyone - just been reading the threads about mod'ing the A3010 to access the native IDE interface...

I took the PowerTec IDE interface out this morning and gave it a good check over, it's very simple (just a few ICs and connectors) and couldn't see any damage or dry solder joints. I've just ordered a replacement IDE cable to see if that is the problem, if not I don't know what's going on. I tried formatting a couple of SD cards on the PI as well to the correct size and format but always just get a disc error on the A3010. Suspect it's not a problem with the drive/cards as everything gives the same error (even though it can read the drive layout and seem to format the SD cards ok).

Serial would work, it's what I did before, but as the HD doesn't work I can't load up the terminal program I used to send the files like I did before! I suppose I could always code up something very simple from scratch to receive serial bytes and write them to a file, at least to get some kind of proper serial application on the A3010 and saved onto a floppy. Fun times.

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Postby flaxcottage » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:07 pm

Welcome. :D
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Re: Hello everyone

Postby SteveBagley » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:30 am

sgb27 wrote:
Serial would work, it's what I did before, but as the HD doesn't work I can't load up the terminal program I used to send the files like I did before! I suppose I could always code up something very simple from scratch to receive serial bytes and write them to a file, at least to get some kind of proper serial application on the A3010 and saved onto a floppy. Fun times.


If you need to transfer files over then this program I wrote might help. It takes in a file and generates a BBC Basic listing that when run on an Arc generates the original file. If you stick the A3010 into BASIC you can use a couple of * FX commands to enable the serial port to provide input as well as the keyboard then send the generated listing over from a PC.

It's long winded and messy, but it should let you bootstrap over something more useful :-)

Alternatively, USB floppy drives are dirt cheap and also work well since RISC OS can read DOS disks.

Steve

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Re: Hello everyone

Postby oss003 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:22 am

Welcome and enjoy the forum ...

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